From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Wed Mar 28 16:16:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39929F6AAF0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF0A174026; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w2SGGN3c057760; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w2SGGNJb057759; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201803281616.w2SGGNJb057759@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: removal of token-ring infrastructure coming soon In-Reply-To: <20180328160353.GC88362@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> To: Brooks Davis Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) CC: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 16:16:28 -0000 > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 04:56:32PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > I have posted a revision which removes support for token-ring networking > > > from the tree. There have been no such devices for some time. > > > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14875 > > > > > > > Arcnet coming soon? > > and probably FDDI? > > That's my plan. I started with token ring as it doesn't even have > drivers (Arcnet and FDDI have one driver each, but ISA and 32-bit PCI > respectively AFACT). I fully support that arcnet and FDDI are dead. Please be a bit carefull with what your calling "32 bit PCI" as those are also often embedded devices in chipsets that may not have cards avaliable, but are infact built in to systems. Also I have become aware that axing the bt946 support may not be a real good idea, as that is/was a common hypervisor emulation device and just recently found myself using it in to access a disk that was created with a scsi controller that had odd translation and the ata layer would not do the right thing for me. (32 sector, 64 head, which is not really odd for scsi, thats common translation for many scsi cards). I ended up using vmware with a bt946 emulation on scsi with the drive image attached to it, and booted FreeBSD from an ahci attached disk. If the bt946 drive was missing from 11.1 I would of been stuck. As far as I am aware both vmware and virtualbox have support for bt946 emulation, which is also a superset of aha154x. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org