From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 5 03:24:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8858323E0B2 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 03:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22c.google.com (mail-oi1-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48C6Nm15jrz40bS for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 03:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x22c.google.com with SMTP id a142so546665oii.7 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:24:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=x5YQ/7USq0xWs83QAGomGcwD8fx3Fx34iXhF3L/aNlw=; b=uCn4dQzyq9nmyWC2CjTu4P5J98JML7CJaRq6Aat5BU5TTpAWD+O/IIVzvICC5gFVf/ 7YkCOatV4X4Zf8xvRL/74B7qVZ1lERhoPeMW49pFsjvMleSQsnPkmVbXB4oau8ewoZL5 pfg5T90wKGQJVqbqIKo/u6pScROfsaDUlU4lsWJt+g6H0YjI9RvIO4WHcGgnPCKklqKy 45pHdiMxO56SY8e4GJ4F41Ji48JIpdHMXlKnnoFtwAu2HXHTzcqfENwC1A04ErjoUcQa f8oe3jr5wESUAz0wmo5A0TRD9qD72D56lrlQ8z/+AUOlXGeZf79FC7W5ee2M4KOuYwcy DSgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=x5YQ/7USq0xWs83QAGomGcwD8fx3Fx34iXhF3L/aNlw=; b=KC27tw/kkVr7niIq7ZC4vrU/O0ghUx8SF32TFmLqepXBU4g0rKETIDIXxTw0hD4pTI gxQl7Iz/OB010EwWgj5tC1tpc+FkzAN/kWlFCZYD+fn596L+pFo2rfRvP+BU8PviiP+c mEuJ1fJtpuaVIRDnKB2TDFW7u8vrTi8gXa3kOtk4RjiUoM8Qe+KWa/RSIlqnt4sSeDMu TsMzVbQ8TbCrWe5/XmY/FgA70MmC8TOV4LaXe1jZX3glU4aBRV7SXtV8PNZxlWyBuEdi acftWkeEWw/HBzdV8YJMINHdktu5y88QwJxp66y30bya5OZYfX9SCSTimjEJS62hmFwp gveA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVrOZdxXe/BWvTWDT1tRS+dI/qY+CsAC6rEs23d+TJOOCReibYG hasz2lYhwTkKYj3KX45VX5LCC9DQLKd5bXFFskM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzOuLcrKBsEhCcj0zcuEsH9kBADDF32yEVfvPY0fRS1IIHFaovCEIhD/3efIzSW3FOcTUdQDvJP63o3jnpKpBc= X-Received: by 2002:aca:1708:: with SMTP id j8mr1555681oii.166.1580873046833; Tue, 04 Feb 2020 19:24:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200202103600.1959de17@dismail.de> <20200202154227.GB1309@albert.catwhisker.org> <20200202121118.71446c54@dismail.de> <20200202123845.46fc2d8b@dismail.de> <20200202185446.GB60645@server.rulingia.com> <20200202205050.GA2182@squirrel.exwg.net> <600545092.3036828.1580684357864.JavaMail.zimbra@his.com> <20200203075041.GA2321@squirrel.exwg.net> <5e3957d5.1c69fb81.a3f10.6cedSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5e3957d5.1c69fb81.a3f10.6cedSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 19:23:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: xterm-353 To: Thomas Mueller Cc: FreeBSD Ports ML X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48C6Nm15jrz40bS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=uCn4dQzy; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kob6558@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kob6558@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.60), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.98), asn: 15169(-1.75), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rkoberman@gmail.com,kob6558@gmail.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 03:24:09 -0000 On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 3:39 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > > This is quite surprising as I have not seen this. I do get occasional > dead > > buttons due to all of the privacy add-ons I run, especially No-Script, > but > > also less intrusive ones like Privacy Badger. > > > I have seen a few issues with sites taking advantage of some JS functions > > outside of the standard that Chrome has added and Firefox has not yet > > picked up. This is the fault of Chrome playing the old IE game of making > > other browsers notwork correctly on some pages. I also have to fake the > UI > > identifier for some sites as they reject access from FreeBSD (Chase Bank, > > I'm looking at you!) or do the wrong thing. > > > As regards chromium, I have deleted it it and will not consider ever > using > > it due to it's massive data collection and its blocking privacy tools > like > > No-Script. > > > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > > I know from experience what you mean with Chase Bank blocking online > banking access if your user-agent string is not to the website server's > liking. > > Chase Bank is not the only offender. Some websites, without blocking > access, behave differently and wrongly depending on user-agent string. > > I got Chase Bank to work with an outdated version of Otter Browser and a > fudged user agent. > > Sometimes it's not what browser you're using, but what browser the website > software thinks you're using. > > I do find some scripts to cause problems and make some websites very slow. > > I had problems with Mozilla SeaMonkey on nfl.com when I was looking to > see highlights on the last Super Bowl (last Sunday night). > > I was glad to close that browser window! > > Since this problem with Chase, using Mozilla Seamonkey under FreeBSD, > affects me so directly, I could not resist making this response. > > Tom > This is getting a bit off-topic, but I use Firefox with User Agent Switcher by Linder. (There are several Firefox extensions that have VERY similar names.) It works perfectly at Chase and also fixes several sites that insist on providing the mobile version to FreeBSD. It allows the selection of both OS and browser to provide in the user agent ID on a per-site basis. It fixes a lot of issues. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683