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[209.85.160.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j36sm38272894qtk.15.2019.01.08.03.43.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Jan 2019 03:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt1-f169.google.com with SMTP id i7so3937044qtj.10; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 03:43:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aed:2603:: with SMTP id z3mr1264430qtc.120.1546947783390; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 03:43:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201812290643.wBT6hrrn004823@repo.freebsd.org> <2925580.fqq9MUTMxn@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <2925580.fqq9MUTMxn@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> From: "Tobias C. Berner" Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 12:42:51 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r488656 - head/archivers/ark To: Max Brazhnikov , Adriaan de Groot Cc: "Tobias C. Berner" , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9FA6888820 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:44:41 -0000 Hi Max I would like to have the KDE packages to be the most useful they can, i.e. "batteries included". People who want to have a limited set can still toggle them off, but those that just use the packages will get a full-fledged usable desktop from the moment they pkg install it. I was scratching my head at whether to enable rar by default or not, because of the licensing issue, but as its license terms allow its redistribution, I found it to be acceptable -- I'm not a lawyer [tm]. If its not, we can revert that one. I don't find package messages sufficient, the easiest example for this is "why don't I have any sound in KDE". While the pkg-message of phonon clearly states that a backend is needed. mfg Tobias On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 00:03, Max Brazhnikov wrote: > Hi, Tobias! > > On =D1=81=D1=83=D0=B1=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B0, 29 =D0=B4=D0=B5=D0=BA=D0= =B0=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2018 =D0=B3. 6:43:53 UTC Tobias C. Berner wrote: > > Author: tcberner > > Date: Sat Dec 29 06:43:53 2018 > > New Revision: 488656 > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/488656 > > > > Log: > > archivers/ark: enable options by default > > The reason was to make the package as light as possible and allow users > install > additional packages they need. That why KDE ports had all optional runtim= e > deps > disabled by default. There is another problem with this particular case: > now > ark depends on binary port with non-free license (archivers/rar) and on > archivers/unrar (also with restrictive license), which I find less useful= l > than unrar-iconv. > > > - an archiver that cannot handle archives by default is not great > > Perhaps pkg-message with advice would be sufficient? > > Cheers, > Max > > >