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Date:      Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:41:58 -0400
From:      "leegold" <goldtech@worldpost.com>
To:        "Doug Young" <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
Cc:        <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: new books, changing my pt. of view
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Are you sure you want a "Union". How about a consortium? What's a
consortium? What shape should the tables be? I say semi-circular. I also
want to be the treasurer - there's this nice ABIT dual celeron mobo I've
been hankering for - we need this for research. I also want a wet bar.



----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Young <dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au>
To: leegold <goldtech@worldpost.com>
Cc: <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: new books, changing my pt. of view


> > I had to use instructions from five web sites and piece it together when
I
> > attempted my first install some months ago plus fill in the blanks from
> the
> > mail and newsgroups.
>
> Seems thats the way things are done in open source circles .... maybe if
> enough
> of us newbie types made a lot more noise someone might listen. Hey you've
> just
> given me an idea .... what say we form a "FreeBSD Newbie Union" to press
the
> "powers that be" for better working conditions ??
>
> This has been the pattern for learning how to do most
> > things. In a mission critical situation ( and of course I can only tread
> > water re FreeBSD at this point ) I would say use the brilliantly
> documented
> > stuff all things being equal.
>
> I come across a heap of associates in general business consulting circles
> who are, like me, quite impressed with the way FreeBSD systems just
running
> with nary an illegal act / fatal exception / GPF / BSOD / etc, but as soon
> as some unfamiliar application is required the typical difficulty in
> figuring it out plus the time pressures involved in most businesses tends
to
> force a move to some other O/S, usually a product of our comrades from
> Redmond. Thankfully I've got a fairly loyal & open-minded mob of clients
who
> manage to muddle by for whatever time it takes me to sort some solution
out
> in FreeBSD, but not everyone has this luxury.
> >
> > I have found - and I feel "funny" saying this, but, many ( SOME )
> brilliant
> > Unix admins. - they are....individualists. Some are hard for me to deal
> > with. Even the ones in official teaching positions sometimes are
> eccentric.
> > But I unabashedly pick their brains if I can.
>
> I think eccentricity is part of geekship, and even more so in academia. We
> can probably live with that as long as the aforesaid eccentric ones
refrain
> from writing stuff in whatever weird language they learned on their home
> planet and stuck to "proper" english (like what regular folk use). Better
> still, the "FreeBSD Newbies Union" should insist that ALL documentation be
> prepared by one of their members.
>
>
>
>
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