Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 07:22:43 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: "Kevin P. Neal" <kpn@neutralgood.org> Cc: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>, "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" <freebsd@gushi.org>, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 12.4 disc 1 iso is really large Message-ID: <20221210072243.9109d9c9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <Y5QPnrqluEtgLrNn@neutralgood.org> References: <4AC6140B-2927-46C4-8405-18FA872DEAB5@gushi.org> <20221209050452.40918a6bcccb953c197ecec6@sohara.org> <Y5QPnrqluEtgLrNn@neutralgood.org>
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 23:48:30 -0500, Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 05:04:52AM +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 22:58:01 -0600 > > "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" <freebsd@gushi.org> wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > I’m just noticing that the standard FreeBSD iso is some 959 megs: > > > > > > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.4/FreeBSD-12.4-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > > > > > > Is there something in the release notes that basically implies we no > > > longer expect people to burn things to actual discs? > > > > You need a DVD - it's been some time since it fitted on a CD <sigh> > > I still remember doing installs from floppies. > > So... what's the point of the "disc1" image that today requires a DVD if > there's also a "dvd" image made to be burned to a DVD? I've been asking this ("complaining about it") in the past. As it seems, the regular 650 MB / 700 MG size of a CD can no longer hold a FreeBSD installation... which is strange, because if it would be possible to reduce the amount of packages (!) on the disc, it would be suitable for use with CD media again, as it was in the past: The classic "4 CDs approach" of older FreeBSD versions contained: CD #1 with system installation and _some_ packages CD #2 with a live system CDs #3 and #4 with all other packages So CD #1 could always be used to install a working OS, and you could also install some packages (like X, Midnigh Commander, joe, vim, and other useful stuff). For the ultimate selection of packages, discs #3 and #4 would be used (if needed), ot the installation could continue via Internet. However, a complete offline installation was possible. Strange thing: The "bootonly" and "minimal install" images intended for use with USB media _could_ fit on a CD. Naming convention: "img" for USB images, "dvd" for DVD images, "disc" for CD images - but probably since FreeBSD 10 or 11, they no longer work with CDs... Solution: Use USB and Internet. Optical media is no longer in mainstream use, so its support will surely be dropped altogether in the future. "Everyone has fast Internet!" And now GET OFF MY LAWN!!! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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