From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 18 02:37:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A091065694 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B693F8FC17 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49172 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2009 02:37:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1255833438; bh=68osROOwzCk2npqqTnb/g5rBwF55GFBvnNnrdWfVL6g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OiTIOmzVMsZt24ZyZ1EDwP8C+fL+avXaqr/13exP/UFuDCPLw6984Y/a5cLe4NfZpBlSNE+gm5uj3+1t1Yqwj4yUV3GNnqoamav9xM+OZP7fSGz7E130T9p2A3CdcG8MNpdhb8ZSXkwKWSXLZQLFOEhrGMZZ46N5Sp5ubh55Bd0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bJ/3y50tvL1Nsys7p50H8UdwFfVX0/fPNneHMz5NWyXP7s3xuYDpRx//TwDj5zQakDbwARmLKbGHysbrEHiTjaeqWKgQEItk7G6i14HAsTMrd5mm24BVqucyjzn5fbx0hHa4z6AqOjjt5JS1algCZZcvK1q7LEzIrQhY1er+1Nc=; Message-ID: <47491.48249.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: E6uijdYVM1m0fht3L6kt3ZGXE7GOKYIO13hvztX4avpSV6xRtnIXxAhhHmWgbaFDyjcN5WRoR9WxtFhe700XiA6qwrJrODCWjHQVW5TMYN8siki_yfDUm9_jD.NPJPMHkZMFT0VJ2vVaaNNVTKfLwu3Bm2T2i2BRABu1MuhX4bs8xo0nXZhqlE7Dvl3JIbQZ2NNgbwMg99sFwm2Wgf1n78Jirow_xauX3pUuv.EuUz5sCHjAMN3InODmiVw6yRrFet0LID8tCmtbeSC_BkOAEXAVCqum.4dpnW5WTOh6JTZ7ab6H7qhrEvNWzm.c1jVzPrlrG3qO.vQ_rX6P7TkQ46VRHI6GsQu9PSXhewiO8geuhbUz2QFwHzEsc7Si5L8RtalYiSyoJs69kqasjze8hWmL Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:37:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:37:17 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091017223503.B774C10656D3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:37:19 -0000 =0A=0A=0A> =0A> Message: 9=0A> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:07:25 -0400=0A> Fr= om: PJ =0A> Subject: Re: I hate to bitch but bitch= I must=0A> To: Polytropon =0A> Cc: Steve Bertrand ,=A0=A0=A0=0A> "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=0A> =A0=A0=A0 =0A> Message-ID: <4ADA23FD.8020003@videotron.c= a>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A> =0A> Polytropon wrote:= =0A> > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:29:04 -0400, PJ =0A>= wrote:=0A> >=A0=A0=A0=0A> >> It is simple to understand Emglish but not so= =0A> simple what was meant by=0A> >> whoever wrote it...I cannot correct so= mething that=0A> I do not uderstand...=0A> >> come on, man, that should be = easy to understand.=0A> >>=A0 =A0=A0=A0=0A> >=0A> > As English is not my na= tive language, I *now*=0A> understand the=0A> > meaning of "it should"; in = this case, it seems to mean=0A> something=0A> > like "basically, it is supp= osed to, but in this case,=0A> it does=0A> > not", regarding the desired ac= tion.=0A> >=A0=A0=A0=0A=0A> To be as precise as possible, it means normally= it should=0A> work so go=0A> ahead; then the question is - what do you mea= n by=0A> normally.=0A=0AYou made the blunder of using the word "should" in = your definition of "should" :)=0A=0A> In our case above, the instructions w= ere to do the=0A> operation with the=0A> disk not in use and the os in SUM.= That's very clear. Now,=0A> I f they=0A> wanted to point out a bug, the bu= g means that there is an=0A> anomaly under=0A> certain circumstances - and = in this case there really is no=0A> bug as it is=0A> very clear as to how t= he instructions should be used. If=0A> they consider=0A> the operation unde= r a live files system a bug, then they=0A> should just=0A> make a warning a= nd say something along the lines of "do not=0A> use on live=0A> system as t= hat may destroy data" or something to that=0A> effect.=0A=0AAs others have = mentioned, context is important. Somebody even suggested a re-wording dropp= ing the word "should."=0A=0AIf there was a risk of data-loss, (somebody not= ed the program refuses to touch a live filesystem,) the bugs section would = have read something more like:=0A(Program) SHOULD NOT try writing to a live= file-system.=0A=0AThat is to say, the word "should" in a "Bugs" section im= plies a wish-list item. Meaning: it is technically possible, but the mainta= iners have not done the necessary (possibly tedious) work yet.=0A=0A=0ARega= rds,=0A=0AJames Phillips=0A=0A=0A__________________________________________= ________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam p= rotection around =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com