From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 18 21:43:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09929 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09921 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 04:43:45 GMT (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18056; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:42:11 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980419144206.16618@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:42:06 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Malartre Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: #freebsd-newbies on effnet. References: <35397B1C.F90974D8@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <35397B1C.F90974D8@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 12:18:36AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 12:18:36AM -0400, Malartre wrote: > Someone is interested to give bots for a #freebsd-newbies channel on > effnet? Oh? First you told us it was #BSD-Newbies, then #BSD-Help, and now you're saying #freebsd-newbies? Hmmm... no wonder I couldn't find it :-) > I think it should be a place for (maybe stupid) question about any > newbie-related-thing Who is going to answer the questions? What hours are they going to be available? Or is it going to be newbies advising other newbies? If I go to that channel and someone there tells me to run a particular command, how do I know it is safe? That makes me nervous, what about you? > anyone interested to support it? Sure, it's a great idea, but let's get it well planned. This isn't a company we're dealing with. Everything we want depends on volunteers, and you know what that means :-) You want to see something happen, you do it yourself. If you can do it with the help of other newbies, fine, you organise it. Encourage other newbies to help you, keep in touch with them, work out between you who is going to do what. It's all up to you, we don't have any shcoolmasters here :-) It can be a bit hard for newbies because there's a lot we can't do without others helping, and they only have so much time to help us if they are already following their own good ideas, etc. Still, we have seen that there *is* a lot we can do! It just takes energy and the ability to plan and organise, and keep on working at it. A few weeks ago we saw a number of people volunteer to help each other. Did anyone follow this up? Did the volunteers sit back and wait to be asked to do something? Did the other people wait for the volunteers to offer a second time? This might feel like normal polite behaviour, but it won't work in our case. You have this list to do your chatting, and you have each other's email addresses now, so don't be shy and don't wait to be told what to do! > (sorry for the cross-mailling on 2 mailling list) I'm not sure how this is relevant to -chat so I'm just replying to -newbies. -- Regards, -*Sue*- find / -name "*.conf" |more To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message