Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 14:24:25 +1000 From: Felix Friedlander <felixphew0@gmail.com> To: blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com> Cc: "M. P." <wintermute24x7@icloud.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD on Mac Message-ID: <2DE4EED8-6EB9-4AAE-938B-344211A5C654@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CALM2mEm74C3xMJmbkm8i1NgVK1TWnkN2ZtRjSU4Q0tsHENzAxQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <D08B9A6C-0E82-44A4-A508-91BC57D10A89@icloud.com> <CALM2mEmJNchSMZRrsm1J88tdi0L1nGxKXv8_yNR5UUoDSqEY0Q@mail.gmail.com> <E6AC2117-DD7C-4F4A-A8E3-814ECD4D6FAB@gmail.com> <CALM2mEm74C3xMJmbkm8i1NgVK1TWnkN2ZtRjSU4Q0tsHENzAxQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> On 27 May 2018, at 13:28, blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, May 27, 2018, 10:03 Felix Friedlander <felixphew0@gmail.com> = wrote: >>=20 >>> On 27 May 2018, at 10:23, blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com> = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Sun, May 27, 2018, 08:02 M. P. <wintermute24x7@icloud.com> = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hello I have succeded in creating an install disk for Mac but when = I try >>>> to install single user the process hangs and I get the message = Power Fault >>>> Detected. Any Ideas? Does the Mac hard drive have to be formatted = for FBSD? >>>=20 >>> I wouldn't recommend trying to run anything not Mac OS on their = machines. >>>=20 >>> If your Mac is up to version 11.2 or lower you should be fine. >>>=20 >>> The new Mac hardware actively does things to thwart anyone who tries = to run >>> non Mac OS. >>>=20 >>> Even if you do get it up and running, the wifi will be broken so = you'll >>> need a dongle. >>>=20 >>> GPU will give you trouble as well. >>>=20 >>> If it's one of the newer Mac with those led buttons you're totally = out of >>> luck. >>>=20 >>> If you are able to reverse engineer custom hardware and write custom >>> drivers then you might be OK. >>>=20 >>> If not, either run FreeBSD in a VM on Mac, sell that Mac and buy a >>> compatible laptop or ... >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Owen >>=20 >> On the contrary, I=E2=80=99ve had great success running FreeBSD on = Apple hardware. The hardware=E2=80=99s not actively thwarting anything, = and FreeBSD already has drivers for most of the custom or less common = hardware. (The one exception is Wi-Fi, which is unlikely to work unless = you have quite an old Mac.) >>=20 >> When you say the boot process hangs, does the entire OS stop = responding, or just the installer? Is there any more detail in the = message than Power Fault Detected? >>=20 >> And to answer your question, yes, the hard drive has to be formatted, = but the FreeBSD installer will do that for you automatically. >>=20 >> - Felix >=20 > What Mac hardware version do you run? > Like I said in my previous reply if the user has newer Mac hardware = he's going to be in for a world of pain. >=20 > I have a 11,4 retina macbook pro and it's so problematic I bought a = new laptop. >=20 > Audio also proves problematic. >=20 > If the users laptop is newer than 11,2 there will be issues. >=20 > Best, > Owen I=E2=80=99ve run FreeBSD on everything from a PowerBook G4 through to a = MacBookPro12,1 (which is a retina the same vintage as the 11,4 except = with 13" screen). Audio works fine, as does graphics (after I submitted = a 2-line patch to fix the vt(4) hard-coded resolution limit). A touch bar will probably cause major issues, but those are only present = on the 13,2 and 13,3 (and their successors). Other than that there may be minor issues (e.g. the tilde key needing to = be remapped), but nothing that would stop me from installing FreeBSD. - Felix=
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