From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 4 09:56:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8217E16A4CE for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (hak.cnd.mcgill.ca [132.216.11.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B8E43D1F for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:56:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: from hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54GvgK0033816; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:57:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mat@hak.cnd.mcgill.ca) Received: (from mat@localhost) by hak.cnd.mcgill.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id i54GvgW2033815; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:57:42 -0400 From: Mathew Kanner To: takawata@jp.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040604165742.GP92188@cnd.mcgill.ca> References: <20040604155331.GO92188@cnd.mcgill.ca> <200406041645.i54GjcEk061517@sana.init-main.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <200406041645.i54GjcEk061517@sana.init-main.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: I speak for myself, operating in Montreal, CANADA X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.62 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.62 (2004-01-11) on hak.cnd.mcgill.ca cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Mathew Kanner Subject: Re: What happened to src/sys/dev/sound/midi ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:56:25 -0000 On Jun 04, takawata@jp.freebsd.org wrote: > In message <20040604155331.GO92188@cnd.mcgill.ca>, Mathew Kanner =1B$B$5$= s$$$o$/=1B(B: > >On Jun 03, Robert Watson wrote: > >>=20 > >> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Brooks Davis wrote: > >>=20 > >> > [Please wrap your lines properly. Between your complete failure to > >> > format your message appropriately and your extremely abrasive tone, I > >> > was seriously tempted to simply kill file you. :(] > >> >=20 > >> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 12:42:30PM -0600, P.D. Seniura wrote: > >> > > So where is the URL for this quote, please? I said twice now that= I > >> > > cannot find it. And I *still* cannot find it! (third time... ;) > >> >=20 > >> > You could always check cvsweb. It should be the obvious first place= to > >> > look: > >> >=20 > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/sound/midi/Attic/m= idi.c > >> >=20 > >> > The mailing list archive lists the message here: > >> >=20 > >> > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D240510+0+current/cvs-= src > >>=20 > >> All this aside, I was a bit surprised on reading the commit message to= see > >> the current MIDI code axed before adding the new code, if the new code= is > >> expected to be seen soon. Usually the argument for "axe now" in the > >> presence of "new version coming soon" is "the current version is hurti= ng > >> people and should be put out of its misery". I wouldn't preclude that > >> being the case, but I don't remember it causine that much misery... > > > > In my humble opinion: We should axe this driver as "the > >current version is hurting people and should be put out of its > >misery". The current driver (before removal) simply didn't work and > >people were trying to use it. >=20 > I send you again, > "Are there any snapshot of your audio related work available for=20 > review?"=20 > At least, the older code shouldn't be removed until the replacement=20 > appears. In regards to MIDI, I've been posting links to patches for about a year now. I've had relatively little feedback. I'm not sure if the current patches that are posted will compile after some changes to infrastructure. In regards to USB sound, I've lost the changes I did when I cvsup'ed. Sad but true, I've done this a few times so I think I need to improve the way I do work. Anyway, I plan to redo them since it was mostly a couple hour of mechanical work. --Mat --=20 I have found that humans often use Smalltalk during awkward moments. ("Data")