From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 11 02:58:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFBE1065673; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3818FC13; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3B2vLVO053404; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:57:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20090410.205812.1723217987.imp@bsdimp.com> To: brooks@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20090410.123404.-1398308997.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20090409131253.GB7795@hades.panopticon> <20090409153805.GB83847@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20090410.123404.-1398308997.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, amdmi3@amdmi3.ru, des@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r190031 - head/etc/defaults X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:58:50 -0000 In message: <20090410.123404.-1398308997.imp@bsdimp.com> "M. Warner Losh" writes: : In message: <20090409153805.GB83847@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> : Brooks Davis writes: : : Unless you have one of the few interfaces that does not generate : : link status events, dhclient will be started by devd. The only ones I : : know of are a subset set of ed(4) devices, though I think imp may have : : fixed those recently with a stub ifmedia interface. : : I think ep(4) is the only "common" case left. For ed(4) we now do the : right thing for the really old cards (those without a MII) as well as : the merely old cards (those with a phy). For the really old cards, we : generally default to "Link is up all the time" as our status, : specifically to keep dhclient happy. : : Of course, the number of users of these cards is quite low these : days... I've fixed a number of bugs that should have been bad enough : for people to complain, but since nobody did, I'm guessing the install : base is smaller than I'd thought... ep(4) now works for UTP aka 10BaseT. At least for the 3c589-based cards (the 3c574-based cards I haven't tested, but should be using the MII that's there to manage this stuff, but aren't: another rainy day project). As a side effect, I dusted off my 3C1 documentation and thought I'd give it one more try to get working, and I found the magic pixie dust to sprinkle in... This makes FreeBSD the only open source OS to support it, although now that the secret is out, I suspect others will follow since it is really rather simple... Warner