From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Mar 2 19:03:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BED1257807 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2020 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f42.google.com (mail-io1-f42.google.com [209.85.166.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48WV124t1pz3G5t for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2020 19:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f42.google.com with SMTP id w9so551445iob.12 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:03:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Zlk1+l8LjfX+j+rKaJFQVur0XLm06NC+r2/gGKm+Ums=; b=Hi+O9t2lvIF1BRLNqkD68Mxe0mT+gKjcgykxW0W9LWFvh+LNq1N7WdjmQ9lMSk6/UV a0IrYalJA72scigKVYhb/U7cIFdKkdJ7xegSP54kIqVtdIoIoKUmM0E5M66DcSxD8DX+ awqwhAjjXtADsKxyF+nRhX/eZJq6W98XJqFFFJ7YJsF7QNVAOkBIR8qhxNKo6+vg4GlR GvjLr6x3CCT/CW7lnHev3GoHVXiFATaxLqVrUAv9az4URNgI+Q6rTCoC/QiJtfLx5Fp+ 6juBq9yQN2q6rR6qo5jyY5dSb6ppKkMERurYQam3xMmhqsikW757BdTzDS+xRLoKaCFp WlyA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2gyZAgMPozk/4Cu2tdBdOz/nZLm9D0CJCgscOUXGpiIQuw/+d2 v7dTurJDdLn2kgUt2vDLQgdQyaYCK8/id1fl3Dc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vspAZ8Me4u8OIjtAiw+q9BLf9SHvT5Z0lL3qgjbmEnWw3gvgt1XyAtoODM9Uqh+MRmY5TtRuKbXnjVWGTS/eo8= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7e46:: with SMTP id k6mr773499ioq.11.1583175829784; Mon, 02 Mar 2020 11:03:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 14:03:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any sync-serial driver users (ce/cp/ctau/cx)? To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48WV124t1pz3G5t X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; IP_SCORE(-2.01)[ip: (-5.37), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-2.99), asn: 15169(-1.66), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[42.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[42.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2020 19:03:51 -0000 On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 15:57, Warner Losh wrote: > > Given the ~15 years of nothing but API changes to these cards, and the lack of testing of those changes, and the large technology transitions in net and tty layers of the system, I'd honestly be surprised if these drivers still work. Deprecation notices in review D23928 https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23928. As rgrimes points out cx(4) is for an ISA card (Cronyx Sigma family), and I assume there's no conflict over removing it. Likewise with ctau, which is also ISA, discontinued by the manufacturer and not supported in FreeBSD 7+ by them.