From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 11:46:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0D9B97C4B for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@obluda.cz) Received: from smtp1.ms.mff.cuni.cz (smtp1.ms.mff.cuni.cz [IPv6:2001:718:1e03:801::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88D5D1A2A for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@obluda.cz) X-SubmittedBy: id 100000045929 subject /DC=org/DC=terena/DC=tcs/C=CZ/O=Charles+20University+20in+20Prague/CN=Dan+20Lukes+20100000045929+20332603 issued by /C=NL/ST=Noord-Holland/L=Amsterdam/O=TERENA/CN=TERENA+20eScience+20Personal+20CA+203 auth type TLS.MFF Received: from [10.20.12.2] ([194.108.204.138]) (authenticated) by smtp1.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id u6DBkf7E066558 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:46:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dan@obluda.cz) Subject: Re: FreeBSD - a lesson in poor defaults? To: freebsd-security References: <20160713073859.GA88448@localhost.lu> <57860275.404@obluda.cz> <300EEE78-1BF1-460E-ABDD-8EA5C4809941@localhost.lu> <429620683.344.1468405521739@office.mailbox.org> <20160713122923.058ee43e@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Dan Lukes Message-ID: <57862A25.3000608@obluda.cz> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:46:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160713122923.058ee43e@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:46:49 -0000 On 13.7.2016 13:29, RW via freebsd-security wrote: >> why I need ntpd or sendmail activated in default installations. > ntpd isn't activated by default. Also, it's somewhat imperfect to claim "sedmail activated" here. There's submission server running on localhost:25 by default only. Just to avoid confusions ... Dan