From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 17:42:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6EE106564A for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2018FC17 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so3654183fxm.13 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.14.137 with SMTP id g9mr4735417faa.1.1301334163480; Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15sm1609081fax.34.2011.03.28.10.42.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D90C891.2090208@my.gd> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:42:41 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <16FA7C02-86B0-46E6-A923-BC61357478FA@vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New Boot-Loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:42:45 -0000 On 3/28/11 6:48 AM, Devin Teske wrote: > Hi fellow hackers, > > I'm designing an open-sourced replacement boot-loader for FreeBSD. I feel that the existing options in the boot-loader menu today can be whittled down significantly with a stateful menu system rather than a single-action item menu system. > > In designing the new menu, I'd like to get your opinions. From old: > > FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE: twitpic.com/4e485w > > to new: > > Replacement Boot-Loader: twitpic.com/4e46ol > > NOTE: The final release will have a single-user mode option. > > The new menu allows for more flexibility as selecting options 2 ("Boot Verbose") or 3 ("ACPI Support") independently toggles the status, updates the menu item, and redisplays the menu -- ever-waiting until the user ultimately presses ENTER, "1", or escapes to the prompt and types "boot". Thus, one could potentially launch single-user mode with verbosity on and ACPI disabled (if one so desired). > > In addition, I really tried to capture the essence of the new logo (spent months off-and-on using different conversion programs with different inputs). In the end, I found text-image.com produced the best result. I used the official freebsd.org/logo.html Standard Logo (black and white), cropped (to 122x123) and converted to jpeg with white background. I used an "Image Width" of 45 in their "Convert into ASCII" program available here: text-image.com/convert/ascii.html > > I would be distributing this as an installable package (perhaps in the ports tree if it gains popularity). I like the new looks, thanks for your efforts :) I also like Paul's idea of tying the actions (single, verbose) to letters instead of numbers. As for the comment about this "new" look not being modern enough, to be honest I for one could care less. I'm using servers, when I see this loader this usually means there's a problem or I'm anticipating one. So it looking fancy isn't really my top priority, I'd rather it be functional and well thought-out. Thanks again for your work Devin :) -- dfl