From nobody Mon Aug 30 13:49:25 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-cloud@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF43817AF8B0 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james.wright@digital-chaos.com) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.13]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GysBK2m3gz4bTc for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 13:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james.wright@digital-chaos.com) Received: from [192.168.0.12] ([82.29.153.121]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.179]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MpUpW-1mm3jB44qq-00pwA0 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:49:22 +0200 Subject: Re: RFC: Switching FreeBSD/EC2 images to UEFI boot To: freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org References: <79c48cc2-5341-2cea-7d6e-4372f7c93245@freebsd.org> From: James Wright Message-ID: <276e84a5-b1b0-a35c-46dd-964c84c7d6e1@digital-chaos.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:49:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 List-Id: FreeBSD on cloud platforms (EC2, GCE, Azure, etc.) List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-cloud List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <79c48cc2-5341-2cea-7d6e-4372f7c93245@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YeyHawVJ324MTMzb/DxtpIqw0rNX35/M9JXYlbtx6UaEwaW5JoC N0JxcQ2BD7E0+EMlY0ddUcOAqP3MxJZvmMXrKvbJorzRhtOBC4PB73OiY/DPXIiNp6rCwW3 fnNYwBU2dBVE1NFzpfmW9mSGQKeMX/8x9GwbGGCBF2H0VwBKW/qA6jQ192SgvfEteZyoFBz z1JYaA140Eqj9WSW8LiuQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:apREYxlZZZY=:tDS+lJgl4ifkSWfRG7MgoS H/eTFsAZAeGu7W2ctXHMRTgg+doR3QCYGBbVzx0teOtUDF5ZOqOSTHICsDBo4JWRT2RCMHOkh aH2G/wU58dJRaNX9L3BtnWLPzfDHuoTNGCzviN3WD3yPxZUk/0fQHYD57meI+raVk0rhePxSu z7r464/VDiw/h868g5oNr2yFf6vwYeZERtalkR9sPRC/6zPEx5GZWG1BDn+dNNAEqItg9Zy9s h6utD+X+FmRt27fs2Au+OiiA1RqUPDFgN8OOkiBugJKHLSduna/dAI14s6GyBlucpO50ROy3q un56leBke8qM9AatIfiSuykJ+sa/IKNGo9EcY6CjIBgYOctWUI9f6Grqu9hZvkHiHhJASLiVw yXN5wHS+DIa+8n/mwWhOH8OvAMSIo1jRHo9hZmtVItpqys9OLPf633p1+hC5ZGz+UqJP/B37F tAvKF3RkC9+b8R+CwykqILXpyalxiwuvmZE7/9LNdCAFOZJvagdinkSpBJ1Oy+ckOivt8lqGI B5iP9WqsVLF6QWy+dmSP/YOwUAi3MGF/qoA3UrHiUUttLFIUunDgzUiqsAZnc/slHX8UAEThh 4T/2LIhMBGAvnNVeIIQE4LfmgLAH3GLptqC5NjOtKGz/P3O13BzyNyh20J+Zyou4sHaRQz2j/ 7itIakUvBO3pW7NwG4Mr0sGYvhBsTh3K5CGn8Lcop40eLm3X88QirDXLK9ame/qCmH2/IyfxQ M68v25CS3ZZhUKvs0qR9fugh5nB8viCkQrueCzoFU4PrIdcSygyb2Yer4U4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GysBK2m3gz4bTc X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of james.wright@digital-chaos.com has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.13) smtp.mailfrom=james.wright@digital-chaos.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.74 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[212.227.17.13:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[digital-chaos.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.874]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.77)[-0.770]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[82.29.153.121:received] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N if On 29/08/2021 05:05, Colin Percival wrote: > I don't have any data on instances launched outside of the AWS Marketplace. > > So, as I started this email saying: We have a decision to make and I'm > looking for input from the community. Faster booting, or support for older > EC2 instance types in our published AMIs? Hi Colin, Here is what I currently run 24/7 on AWS with FreeBSD (non Marketplace AMI); 4 x t3a.nano (FreeBSD-12.2) 1 x t3a.micro (FreeBSD-12.2) I try move to newer instance types where possible (and stable) as they generally offer the same or higher performance for less cost. I haven't moved to FreeBSD-13 yet as I'm allowing time for any issues to be ironed out, hopefully in 13.1 (such as that TSC timecounter fix). Next move might be onto the t4g (Graviton/ARM) instances but haven't properly tested them yet. I personally would prefer the faster booting with UEFI rather than supporting older instance types which will eventually become obsolete anyway. Thanks, James