From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 05:31:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28437B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097C043F3F for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h53CVOMD012387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id h53CVJh47339; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:31:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16092.38167.415865.253265@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:31:19 -0400 (EDT) To: Mike Makonnen In-Reply-To: <20030603122226.BGPM11703.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> References: <20030603113927.I71313@cvs.imp.ch> <16092.35144.948752.554975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030603115432.EGLB13328.out002.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> <16092.36129.388194.477452@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030603122226.BGPM11703.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making a dynamically-linked root X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:31:26 -0000 Mike Makonnen writes: > importantly, I think people are forgetting that this is going to be *optional*. > If you don't want to use it, don't. > What's going to matter is what the default is. Ideally, we'd have an installer that would give a new user the option "Do you want a fully functional NSS and PAM implementation at the cost of higher overhead for shell scripts", and would install the correct binaries and set something in /etc/make.conf so that source upgrades preserved her choice. But that's another issue. As far as getting people to adopt FreeBSD .. you're helping me much more than any of this NSS / pam stuff. At least to me, a functional 1:1 (or M:N) is much more important. Drew