Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 14:30:59 +0800 From: blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com> To: Sid <sid@bsdmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Canberra Message-ID: <CALM2mEmvjZa04baoGczKVRqr%2BiUxeiATfCide9xxRb2N0htHAQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <trinity-bd691936-6310-4eb2-9052-6ebc3cc130d0-1513947133876@3c-app-mailcom-lxa05> References: <trinity-6848ca10-405f-41ae-a91f-7024aacfaf00-1513753440748@3c-app-mailcom-lxa08> <CALM2mEmfSot7UPPT=VyBKieAoM_1TAcOeRR9%2BZwN%2BQ_2C3cUEw@mail.gmail.com> <trinity-31e68301-3574-4114-83c1-d05b06d4ad56-1513762058927@3c-app-mailcom-lxa14> <CALM2mEnoY7ckajow7ydcBj6OTsauqyxRPxzCOc3wHwkx_QohZg@mail.gmail.com> <trinity-19cdafb9-5fe9-4ab6-a8f7-b8fc711b5779-1513816638248@3c-app-mailcom-lxa12> <CALM2mEndL9dpyrhOr-Shk2%2Bd-uvY8nUhW9UaAWfbFHkYrqj3sw@mail.gmail.com> <trinity-fbffe938-2006-4896-9e06-00e4ccb94188-1513917908190@3c-app-mailcom-lxa01> <CALM2mE=4O36U570U06pJDtLYZSTQvebq5nDbosDdfS5EotineQ@mail.gmail.com> <trinity-bd691936-6310-4eb2-9052-6ebc3cc130d0-1513947133876@3c-app-mailcom-lxa05>
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Sid <sid@bsdmail.com> wrote: > > Blubee Blubeeme; > > Who thought that was a good idea, now layer a few more audio layers and > u have Linux[ism] to the max. > > Well, I think that it's not really worth it to go untangle that mess. > > It's okay if you're using a Gnome DE since it's all in there already but > just to play > a sound file you have to bring in all of this nonsense. > > If you want to keep going down the Gnome hole, go ahead let me know when > you get > to the OSS specific issues, if any. > > There's a lot more pressing issues that affect a larger surface area > than a DE. > > Best > > You're right, it's a rabbit hole. Whenever something starts to get > untangled, it changes and becomes more tangled again. > > I made a personal Makefile for a light install of libcanberra that doesn't > use gtk at all. It worked, but more ports now require gtk3 for graphics for > some reason. libcanberra-gtk libraries and its package are now called > specifically from the sourcecode. > > An elegant short term solution is to set make.conf to not install > pulseaudio and gstreamer1 for audio/libcanberra-gtk3: > audio_libcanberra-gtk3_UNSET=PULSEAUDIO GSTREAMER. This accomplishes the > same outcome, without the extra Makefile, and tedious extra work. > > This made me wonder, that I can create a Makefile for distfile/sourcecode > of gstreamer1 and audio/pulseaudio to extract the most used libraries, to > avoid more compilation of those dependencies. The full port and the partial > port may not necessarily conflict, because the extracted library should be > similar enough to the one in the full install, but if it does, then > CONFLICTS= only allows 1 of those ports. I can then file a bug report of > this, if it works. > > > Back to a drop in replacement: > > libcanberra uses audio/libvorbis which has its own API. libvorbis will do > for .oga files. Wav files may need more work, or simply the .wav files will > have to be filed as bugs to be converted into .oga files. > > An important thing to know about libcanberra is, where the program calls > it, and where it calls OSS and libvorbis. Calls to gstreamer1 and > pulseaudio, perhaps via their library files, should go to the OSS API. > Other than that, API's are another language to me. > > Also, there has to be a way (perhaps like from make.conf) to make full > substitutions of packages and libraries. As long as the program that calls > it doesn't make drastic changes that affect it. > > >> Sid; > >> Sooner or later, a drop in replacement for libcanberra needs to be made > for all BSD's. It should use ogg files from audio/freedesktop-sound-theme. > >> Canberra is meant only for sound (.oga, .wav), but graphical code is > tied in heavily into it for XDG icons and graphics standards, so the > problem is not just around gtk. > I just took a look, there's a libcanberra and libcanberra-gtk3 which looks like the port maintainer might be trying to untangle this stuff already. If you wrote that makefile that removes all the gtk stuff, you can either try to get it to Marcus and see if he's willing to use that. If you'd like me to work on the OSS audio portion, drop me that Makefile and I'll look at it in a bit. Best,
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