From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 7 20:41:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9779C16A46B; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-70484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx16.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0313813C4B2; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Received: from ws.local (ws.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.137]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lA7KZSwY079383; Wed, 7 Nov 2007 21:35:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Message-ID: <47322190.30504@deepcore.dk> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:35:28 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sean C. Farley" References: <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> <20071106153509.GB91218@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47308E19.70507@samsco.org> <47315094.6080405@yandex.ru> <47315158.5090304@gmail.com> <4731A755.7060701@yandex.ru> <4731AEE8.70606@gmail.com> <4731AFA5.9090104@gmail.com> <20071107160212.GA31717@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <4731FC4E.6040209@deepcore.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: d@delphij.net, Justin Hibbits , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Andrey V. Elsukov" , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:41:05 -0000 Sean C. Farley wrote: > > Some people are having issues with SATA/300 drives being report (or > utilized) at SATA/150. I see that with my work computer. Personally, > the timeouts that result in errors are my main concern. Here is a > link[1] to my report. OK, the situation where drives are found at SATA150 while drive and=20 controller both support SATA300 can have lots of reasons. If ATA states it has '300 support and the drive supports it as well=20 (note at least some early IBM/Hitachi drives was '300 but the firmware=20 set to '150 and needed a vendor supplied util to up it to '300) it=20 should work. However all kinds of interaction problems can make them=20 agree on the lower '150 speed, and ATA does not try to force anything=20 here, it just asks the drive/controller to connect at the highest speed=20 possible. As long as I dont support portmulitpliers the speed is not really an=20 issue, no drive (so far) on this planet can outrun even the SATA150=20 interface. On the ATAPI timeouts there not much to say, SATA ATAPI HW sucks jut as=20 much as ATAPI HW did it seems, the only way is to try and get it working = on as many as possible at the same time. That however means that someone = (usually me, you wont belive the ATAPI drive collection I've got here=20 already) needs to have all the drives available and time plus motivation = and needed skills to poke around to get it working. At least all the=20 controllers I have here in the lab and the two SATA ATAPI drives in same = work flawlessly... Sad but true. -S=F8ren > > Thank you for looking into these issues. NP! I try to get things fixed, but time has been limited lately... -S=F8ren