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Date:      Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:48:04 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
To:        freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: (short story) dell inspiron 5000e & panic inducing keyboard loss 
Message-ID:  <200109261348.f8QDm4767038@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:23:36 EDT." <20010926052335.A4624@pir.net> 
References:  <20010926052335.A4624@pir.net>  <20010925230216.A32360@moo.holy.cow> <200109260755.f8Q7ts765629@harmony.village.org> 

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In message <20010926052335.A4624@pir.net> Peter Radcliffe writes:
: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org> probably said:
: > Yes.  Some pccards run at high SPL levels in their probe/attach
: > routines that give the appearance of a hang.  The an driver, to pick
: > on one, does this.
: 
: I've noticed that one, and it's really fricking annoying at times.  Is
: it something that is done for a good reason or could it be fixable ?
: (seems to do the same thing on a remove as well as an insert, I
: thought the machine had hard hung the first time I pulled my cisco
: card).

Well, the remove part is relatively easy to do, but does require
client driver (eg an, ep, etc) changes to check to see if the hardware
has gone away and thereafter avoids touching the hardware.

Warner

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