From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 12 4:52:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from gizmo.internode.com.au (gizmo.internode.com.au [192.83.231.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A30D14E2C for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:52:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from newton@gizmo.internode.com.au) Received: (from newton@localhost) by gizmo.internode.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22311; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:19:45 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from newton) From: Mark Newton Message-Id: <199907121149.VAA22311@gizmo.internode.com.au> Subject: Re: (forw) To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk (Karl Pielorz) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:19:45 +0930 (CST) Cc: crypt0genic@ecad.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3789D346.5682D28A@tdx.co.uk> from "Karl Pielorz" at Jul 12, 99 12:36:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl Pielorz wrote: > Yes, a nice, effective - and simply way of replacing syscall's on FreeBSD... > Some might say a little too 'simple'? Garbage. You can do this on any OS, whether it supports loadable modules or not, if you've managed to win sufficient privileges through some other means. FreeBSD (and other OSs with loadable module support) merely provides a well-defined API which, like almost every other well- defined API, can be abused by those who harbor ill-will. Making the interface "complicated" does absolutely nothing to stop script-kiddies: Once a complicated interface is in an exploit script, who cares how arcane it is? - mark ---- Mark Newton Email: newton@internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton@atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82232999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message