From owner-freebsd-security Thu Aug 8 18:27:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB8537B400 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neotext.ca (h24-70-64-200.ed.shawcable.net [24.70.64.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D20243E6E for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from campbell@babayaga.neotext.ca) Received: from babayaga.neotext.ca (localhost.neotext.ca [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.neotext.ca (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g791RkA38220; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:27:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from campbell@babayaga.neotext.ca) From: "Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu" To: hawkeyd@visi.com, Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Was: Merged security patches, now SPAM Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:27:46 -0600 Message-Id: <20020809012746.M17312@babayaga.neotext.ca> In-Reply-To: <20020806192150.A23951@sheol.localdomain> References: <1028659081.3d50178945f68_webmail.vsi.ru@ns.sol.net> <200208061927.g76JRrN23297@sheol.localdomain> <20020806234806.M95953@babayaga.neotext.ca> <20020806192150.A23951@sheol.localdomain> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.70 20020712 X-OriginatingIP: 127.0.0.1 (campbell) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. I've been thinking that the problem of spam is one of human identity and not a machine issue -- an identifiable human signator of an email is a fairly good bet that you want to read it. So probably a more general approach to reducing robo-mail would be to have standardised hooks to PGP in all emailers, useable by the massess. When email was first introduced, this should have been a standard feature, but for various reasons wasn't. Authorship provides human authority to otherwise meaningless clusters of bits. This application of security technology is actually of more significance than is secrecy. The reason this is not a signed message is that I'm always trying out web/email clients and long ago found that they don't make pgp integration easy in all of them. Interestingly, I am currently using a thing called Openwebmail, which is descended from something called Neomail. The first pc mail client I built was called neomail, and from its inception, contained full pgp integration. Which, I might add, made a lot of folks unhappy at the time. To wax philosophic, I'd have to say that SPAM is Murphy's revenge for an unfinished implementation. Duncan Patton a Campbell is Duibh ;-) ---------- Original Message ----------- From: D J Hawkey Jr To: Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu Sent: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:21:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Merged security patches for 4.3-RELEASE > On Aug 06, at 05:48 PM, Duncan Patton a Campbell is > Dhu wrote: > > > > Spamset Faraway??? Keeps out all that nasty spam from the > > Viking probe, > > I guess. > > > > Duncan Patton a Campbell is Duibh ;-) > > Am I supposed to understand any of this? Does it have > anything to do with FreeBSD security issues? > > Or shall I see to it I shan't see you again? > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > > From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) > > To: oleg@vsi.ru, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG > > Sent: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:27:53 -0500 (CDT) > > Subject: Re: Merged security patches for 4.3-RELEASE > > > > > In article > > > <1028659081.3d50178945f68_webmail.vsi.ru@ns.sol.net>, > > > oleg@vsi.ru writes: > > > > Цитирую Bob K : > > > > > > > >> > Does the FreeBSD community concerned with these "merged" > > and tested > > > >> patches ? > > > >> > Since I forced to merge these (and all new) security > > patches to 4.0 > > > >> and 4.3, I > > > >> > always can grant them to FreeBSD community. > > > >> > > > >> Whether or not they get merged in with the older security > > branches, > > > >> perhaps you could combine your resources with these guys? > > > >> > > > >> http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/freebsd-backports.html > > > > > > > > All right, I just wrote e-mail to hawkeyd@visi.com, and it > > was rejected by odd > > > > antispam filter. Does anybody know how to contact with this > > person ? Can I see > > > > him there, for example ? It seems that his antispam filter > > passion (see link on > > > > his page) plays poor joke with him ;-) > > > > > > No, SpamFilters isn't playing any joke - SpamAssassin > > > flagged your mail with "CHARSET_FARAWAY", meaning it > > > isn't something I'm able to read (supposedly), so > > > SpamFilters rejected it accordingly. > > > > > > I've lifted that particular SpamAssassin status, if > > > you wish to try again. > > > > > > Thanks for thinking of me and my FreeBSD Backports > > > page though! Dave > > > > > > PS, I didn't know anyone here knew I had put up > > > SpamFilters! Yes, spam has become passion of mine. > > > > > ------- End of Original Message ------- ------- End of Original Message ------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message