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Date:      Sun, 07 May 2000 18:40:21 +0200
From:      Andre Oppermann <oppermann@pipeline.ch>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: [OT] Finding people with GSM phones (was Re: GPS heads up )
Message-ID:  <39159C75.899C464@pipeline.ch>
References:  <200005061850.MAA18384@nomad.yogotech.com>  <200005061840.MAA18274@nomad.yogotech.com> <200005061855.LAA07340@mass.cdrom.com> <200005070549.XAA68658@harmony.village.org>

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Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> With CDMA, you can get a distance very easily.  The phones know what
> time it is, or CDMA doesn't work at all.  That helps a lot.  Much of
> GPS's work is knowing what time it is.  Since the phone knows what
> time it is, they can do all kinds of calculations and round trip
> things to get the distance.  From there, you have a 120degreep arch to
> worry about.  Since CDMA towers have 3 antennas, you likely get use
> slight phase differences between them to narrow it down further.  The
> CDMA folks at qualcomm tend to be smart (although as they have gotten
> larger, this tendacy is weaker than it was), so I wouldn't be
> surprised if they thought real hard and were able to do something
> simple in the end because it happened to fall out of the equasions.

Have a look at page five of this document:

 http://www.3GPP.org/News/Mobile_news_2000/Mobile_News.pdf

It describes the various ways on how to locate a mobile and which
are likely to become a standard.

-- 
Andre


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