From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 15:41:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BAF16A41F for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:41:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574E643D68 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:41:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 11298 invoked by uid 89); 4 Dec 2005 15:41:15 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 11287, pid: 11294, t: 1.8456s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.86.2/m:33/d:1045 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@84.154.187.190) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 4 Dec 2005 15:41:13 -0000 Message-ID: <43930E12.2030205@ultra-secure.de> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:41:06 +0100 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wrangled References: <43913E86.3080409@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <43913E86.3080409@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on bsd.ultra-secure.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will FreeBSD *EVER* support Hp Pavillion laptops? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:41:18 -0000 wrangled wrote: > Every year I try the latest version of FreeBSD to see if it works on > my HP Pavillion 5445, and each year it hangs as soon as the intaller > gets to acpi.ko. > > Yes, I've tried everything. No, it still doesn't work. > > It's my only machine that cannot run FreeBSD. > It just seems odd since the machine is fairly mainstream. The Pavillion line is their low-end line. It will be built from whatever parts Solectron or Quanta (or whichever sweatshop in Taiwan and Mainland-China is producing them these days) have lying around that week. No guarantees are made about chipsets etc. This is what makes getting anything else other than XP running on these laptops so difficult. Personally, I don't see that situation improving in the future - it's only getting worse. For people interested in running FreeBSD on a laptop, this basically boils down do "don't buy what you couldn't test, even if somebody claims to run the same model with Freebsd x.y perfectly". Because, as pointed out above: "The same model is never the same model". cheers, Rainer