From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 12 10:39:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hq.tellabs.com (tlab-138-111-51-100.tellabs.com [138.111.51.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A0614FAB for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:39:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from David.Costa@tellabs.com) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mail.hq.tellabs.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA18827; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:39:30 -0600 (CST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:39:30 -0600 Message-Id: Subject: RE: sync question MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David.Costa@tellabs.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, root@blane.interland.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=openmail-part-086203ed-00000002 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --openmail-part-086203ed-00000002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.RTF" ;Creation-Date="Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:39:29 -0600" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, I doubt if sync parks the drive heads, as this happens automatically in all modern hard drives. In all modern drives based on voice coil technology, the heads are parked by virtue of removing power. This covers both IDE and SCSI drives. I haven't seen a drive based on stepper motor technology in ten years. These drives required a program to move the heads to a "parked" position. If the system is packed adequately, I wouldn't be concerned about shipping damage to the hard drive. Dave Costa -----Original Message----- From: root@blane.interland.net [mailto:root@blane.interland.net] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 12:38 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FW: sync question Hello, First post here. I have a need to move 15 freebsd server over 1000 miles in a very short period of time. Ie: 8 hours. We are going to charter a plane to accomplish this. I do not want to pull the harddrives out of the server if at all possible. So my question is this: Does sync(2) called by shutdown(8) or halt(8) park the heads of the drive? I need to know if I should take the drives out or will they be safe enough in the server if the server packed good will survive the trip. My thinking is if the heads are parked then no harm no foul. Thanks in advance. 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