From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 16 21:13:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E491D1065670 for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 21:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67318FC13 for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 21:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n4GLEaf2005402 for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 14:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 16 May 2009 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:13:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090516211324.GA72504@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: ok, here is a more taional query involving NEW computers. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:13:33 -0000 i used google's search protocol to get around those of craiglist.org. that gave me a series of new and used dual- and quad-core (*Intel*) bozen for my new fbsd server and firewall. and i spent hours scoping out which is the fastest for the least cost. i had zero idea how many dozen of kinds of dual/quad chips there were. after a day+ of reading, i'm more savvy about that. what i still don't know is which company makes the more reliable box, and i'd appreciate as much help as you can give me. i realize that the best manufacturer may sell a bad computer. i'm factoring that in. another thing i just found is that hp's high-end Kayak no longer seem to be made. i am in no was stuck to hewelit-packard. (just that the hp's that i am running right now are more than 11 years old.) one of the most important machines will be my server. the one that may be slightly less critical runs pfSense. if either computer fails, i've lost contact with the rest of the world. any help will be much appreciated! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php