From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 29 09:00:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20472 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20130; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01494; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199807291559.IAA01494@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Nate Williams cc: Flemming Jacobsen , dburr@pobox.com (Donald Burr), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The future of the bt848 driver? (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:08 MDT." <199807291520.JAA26782@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:59:13 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nate, You got the essence of my dispute furthermore I posted to the hacker's mailing asking for a policy clarification for scenarios like Soren and I and I got 0 response. Amancio > > > Why did it have to come down to this, anyway? (Enquiring minds want to > > > know...) > > > > Since it's unlikely that any of the three will comment, I'll > > share what I know. > > > > I've known PHK since highschool, and Soeren for a couple of > > years, thus when I saw Amancios post on -multimedia I sent them a > > mail which (in essence) said "What the fuck are you two bozos > > doing ?". We exchanged a flurry of emails that day (Fri 17) - > > sharing main language and timezone works wonders for communication. > > > > What happened seem to be: > > Soeren sent Amancio a patch to get his AVer Media card working > > (10 lines added to the card table). > > After waiting for 1+ months, Soeren checked it in himself. > > Amancio didn't like this and wanted to back it out, but was > > told by PHK that this was unacceptable unless he added the same > > functionality. > > Amancio couldn't accept this, and walked out. > > Yep. The only thing I want to point out is that both PHK and S'ren both > threw out the "I'm a core member and you better do what I tell you else > we'll yank your commit privileges" bit, which rubs *everyone* wrong. > This isn't the first time they've been heavy-handed about it, nor will > it be the last. > > It annoys me that they can do *wrong* things in many people's minds and > justify them by being a 'core' member. Being a core member doesn't make > it right anymore than just because they company is named Microsoft makes > everything they do wrong. > > > > Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message