Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:32:03 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@atkielski.com>, "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Tiny starter configuration for FreeBSD Message-ID: <00c801c162c0$727e3080$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <004801c162bc$af5dac50$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Anthony >Atkielski >Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:05 AM >To: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Tiny starter configuration for FreeBSD > > >Ted writes: > >> What I was indicating is that the statement that >> the Windows UI is superior than the UNIX UI has no >> meaning because you can put the Windows UI on >> UNIX if you want. > >If I put the Windows UI on UNIX, I'm not running the UNIX UI >anymore. There IS NO UNIX UI!!! Your talking about the UNIX UI as though it's something defined and generally accepted. There is absolutely no standard as how your UNIX desktop can look, you can make it look like anything you want. And if I >want to do that, it's a lot simpler to just run Windows in the first >place. BOTH Windows and UNIX are much more than just a UI. Windows is an operating system that has ONE available UI. UNIX is an operating system that has a UI that's totally defined by the user. Just because you can make UNIX look like Windows doesen't make it Windows. Your confusing the UI with the operating system. This is understandable because Microsoft didn't design Windows so that the UI is a separate piece, instead it's integrated into the OS. UNIX is designed so that any UI you run on it, whether a shell or a graphical one that looks like Windows, or a graphical one that looks like KDE, is basically what you would term an "application" in Windows-world. The >fact that you might be able to get a Windows UI of sorts running under UNIX >doesn't negate the significant and fundamental inferiority of the >UNIX UI from >the standpoint of a typical desktop user. > As I said you can put a graphical UI on UNIX that is indistinguishible from the UI that's integrated into Windows. UNIX allows you to do that. You can set it up so that the "typical desktop user" thinks he's running Microsoft Windows even though the actual OS is UNIX. Apple did this with MacOS X by the way - when MacOS X boots, it looks identical to the classis MacOS and operations done on it are the same too. Since UNIX has no "defined" UI, it's impossible for Windows to have a superior UI because UNIX's UI looks however you want it to look, including exactly like the Windows UI. >> People become emotionally attached to their cars, >> and you ask this?!? :-) > >I've asked why they become emotionally attached to their cars, too. Cars are >just a necessary evil that one must use to travel intermediate and long >distances sometimes. > They get attached for the same reason, because they spend a lot of time in them and people tend to get emotionally attached to inanimate things that they spend a lot of time with. I'm sure that when you were a baby that you had plenty of emotional attachments to toys, blankets, stuffed animals, etc. Would you now say in your enlightened state that your parents gave you a "necessary evil" stuffed bear when you were 6 months old? Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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