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Date:      Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:16:00 +0200
From:      Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>
To:        Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [RFC/HEADSUP] portmaster default -w (preserve shared libraries)
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org> wrote:
> (As maintainer) I'm proposing to make -w the default for portmaster.
> This will preserve old shared libraries when upgrading. This helps 2 things:
>
> 1. Prevents a broken system during upgrades
> 2. Prevents a broken system after upgrading for ports that did not get a
> PORTREVISION bump from a shared library update.
>
> You have certainly ran into this problem with large library updates such
> as png, pcre, openssl, etc.
>
> Portupgrade has always done this as default, and I have never seen any
> problems arise from it. It also cleans up prevents duplicated library
> versions. If portmaster is not already doing this, I will ensure it does.
>
> You could then use pkg_libchk to rebuild any lingering ports if you
> wanted to ensure your system was using the latest. Then cleanout the
> preserved shared library.
>
> Of course there will be a way to stick to the old default of not
> preserving the libraries.
>
> Someone may consider this a POLA violation, but I consider that a broken
> system from missing libraries and PORTREVISION bumps is more of a POLA
> violation.
>
>
> The other option to ensuring that all ports work correctly after a
> shared library update is to just rebuild any port which recursively is
> affected by another port being updated. I think this is fine in
> scenarios such as tinderbox/poudriere, but with end-user compiling ports
> on their system, this may quickly become too much of a burden.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bryan Drewery
>
>

Absolutely yes from me. The -w option is real lifesaver and should be
on by default.

-Kimmo



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