From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 30 17:55:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6316A41F for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (pythagoras.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD85043D48 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.181] (helo=Demon.vickiandstacey.com) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EWHOq-0000sl-BB for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:20 +0000 Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (crom [192.168.1.10]) by Demon.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j9UHtODI037864 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:24 GMT (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from crom.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9UHt9Mu096605 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:15 GMT (envelope-from stacey@crom.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from stacey@localhost) by crom.vickiandstacey.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j9UHt9Tx096604 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:09 GMT (envelope-from stacey) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:09 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20051030175509.GN739@crom.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20051030102835.GK739@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <20051030110604.GA75601@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20051030114424.GL739@crom.vickiandstacey.com> <20051030155240.GA5825@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051030155240.GA5825@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.31.181] Cc: Subject: Re: Canonical upgrade procedure for 6.0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:55:23 -0000 --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Roland, On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 11:44:24AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Hello Roland, > > Thanks for the response. > >=20 > > On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Roland Smith wrote: > >=20 > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 10:28:35AM +0000, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Is there anywhere on the FreeBSD.org site that has any (even if= semi-official) procedure for upgrading a FreeBSD-5Stable machine (i386) to= 6.0? > > >=20 > > > Chapter 20 of the Handbook details how to update your system with cvs= up > > > and how to rebuild your kernel+world. > >=20 > > I know about the procedures details in that chapter, however, I'm > > recalling the fact that at one point in time, there was a "migrating" > > link (http://www.freebsd.org/old/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html) > > on the old website that included, if you will, *the way* to migrate > > from FreeBSD-4 to FreeBSD-5 - that included changes and extra steps as > > against what is mentioned in chapter 20 in the Handbook. >=20 > The migration from 4 to 5 was much more involved, because some > subsystems had been radically changed. The changes from 5 to 6 are less > so, AFAIK. >=20 > > If chapter 20 is the way, then fair enough, but I thought it a simple > > thing to ask. >=20 > Actually, the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING are considered to be > canonical, AFAIK. Chapter 20 refers to it. Look for "COMMON ITEMS", > especially "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to current". Okay.., I took the view that following the Handbook was the way to go, chan= ging "*default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_5" to "*default release=3Dcvs tag= =3DRELENG_6". All went fine, that is, I was able to cvsup sources to upgrade a FreeBSD-5-= Stable machine to FreeBSD-6.0-RC-1: $ uname -a FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 #0: Sun Oct 30 16:09:08 GMT 2005 = :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ All looks well, whereby I can log in successfully, and load X as before (I = know that at some point I need to rebuild all installed ports), however I n= ow need to configure, compile and install a custom kernel. But when I check= ed the location of where (the default in FreeBSD) I'd expect to see a new G= ENERIC, I see the following: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf $ ls -tla total 92 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 30 18:05 . drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 512 Oct 29 19:48 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1741 Oct 29 19:48 GENERIC.hints -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 372 Oct 28 20:21 DEFAULTS -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 10211 Oct 28 20:21 GENERIC -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 33284 Oct 7 15:00 NOTES -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 322 Sep 18 04:37 SMP -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1766 Jul 29 17:02 PAE -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 13 Jun 20 17:52 .cvsignore -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 120 Feb 26 2003 Makefile /usr/src/sys/i386/conf $ After copying GENERIC to "MYKERNEL", I'd have expected to go through MYKERN= EL to add / delete as required, as well as remove the debugging statements = that I'd come across from reading various suggestions (like "options INVARI= ANTS", etc), but I've found that the GENERIC on this system doesn't have th= e entries for any of those debugging statements to remove. Here's a snippet= where I'd have expected to see some of those entries: $ more GENERIC # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig= -config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.429.2.4 2005/10/28 19:21:27 jhb E= xp $ machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for device= s. makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug = symbols #options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big direct= ories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIE= NT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEU= DOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THI= S!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options SCSI_DELAY=3D5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SC= SI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time exte= nsions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc I see the line entry for "makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g", but where are all the ot= hers (INVARIANTS, WITNESS, etc)? Presumably, something's gone wrong somewhe= r along the way? Any information, would be appreciated, please. Regards, Stacey >=20 > That being said, I guess the least troublesome route is to make a backup > of your data (including configuration files), wipe the disks and do a > re-install of 6.0. That way you can be sure there are no leftovers from > 5.x. And then you can "port" your config files to the new release. >=20 > Especially, it gives you an opportinity to tune things like slices and > their sizes. Personally I like to have /home on a separate slice for > easy dumps and backups, since my /usr is to big to fit on DVD with > /usr/home in it. >=20 > Roland > --=20 > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain tex= t. > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBQ2UI+Netyy/wI4UpAQEwAgf8D3GJ37smQGK8GmYxNykGBdBO/rkpH0I2 cbnCFcCCIyvgtsv8DFmX/FykDL1/ucjepvFFQpbNMGdAEwJ/JQkCIsFUXuNZn0Kc ptQ088WomgctOZnRKp2p71LeZzssaGSDau9N9785ZL+biTyCyZwyM3Syqk6VWsm2 XvosIx/JO4akmm0gUU0NQH1r7yYw3gLOS/Na8cMcTt9b7GGEC3VR0ODshRnKuPH9 8tgqmtHI3oJS0Sy9ZFTAo3qj8Tfczu8/36xcQl7sLMEKLj2jd1Kxzabsn7EdmjHl pOZPc8Fr5UH0aqhVrOsU87zJuNBCBTb16bHd2Uu7zEtEnb+6t4ZrGA== =0rCf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC--