From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 17 18:36:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55C537B407 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech_info@threespace.com) Received: from Atlanta.threespace.com ([24.21.224.204]) by femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010618013606.CBGK15482.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@Atlanta.threespace.com> for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:36:06 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010617213259.0178bb88@mail.threespace.com> X-Sender: tech_info@mail.threespace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:35:54 -0400 To: FreeBSD Chat From: Technical Information Subject: Re: System Tuning/Sysadmins In-Reply-To: <15149.19398.975415.242825@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010617184404.01776308@mail.threespace.com> <20010617093905.A20349@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <20010617063505.A29241@shell.monmouth.com> <20010617073505.B20171@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <20010617103922.A79022@acidpit.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010617184404.01776308@mail.threespace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Agreed. Unfortunately, the best experience with fixing things comes from having a broken system. Unless you have someone more experienced to guide your studies in that area, you're only guessing that what you learn will be valuable for any kind of troubleshooting. --Chip Morton At 08:31 PM 6/17/2001, Mike wrote: >You missed one critical thing about that statement: it's not about >tuning things, it's about *fixing* things (first word, last >line). Having a GUI to configure and/or tune things means you can do >so without knowing anything about the underlying system. This is fine >until the system breaks - at which point you're in the position of >having to reinstall and reconfigure the thing from scratch. Or wait >for someone who knows what they're doing to come fix it for you. >Being able to fix things quickly and inexpensively is an important >feature for a server - one that you lose more often than you need to >unless you know how to use the more primitive tools for doing so. > > -- >Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message