From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 15 19:47:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA23148 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 19:47:58 -0700 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA23142 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 19:47:52 -0700 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA17184 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Mon, 16 Oct 1995 05:47:28 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 16 Oct 95 05:47:28 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA00188; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 05:45:56 +0300 To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Cc: hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org References: <199510160100.VAA06828@exalt.x.org> In-Reply-To: ; from =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:13:55 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 05:45:55 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Lines: 31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1355 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= writes: >>A nice suggestion. Too bad it doesn't work. ANSI/POSIX1 say that a >>program does the equivalent of setlocale(LC_ALL, "C") on startup. Given >>that ls, and I gather everything else, disregard my LANG, LC_ALL, and >>LC_CTYPE environment variables, I'm left wondering how it is you think >>that using the "proper locale" will help. Are you assuming that I'm >>using the undocumented hack of setting the ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE >>environment variable? Well, more simplest example: 1) Assume that startup locale hack not exist. 2) Assume that default table propogated to 8859-1 as you suggest. 3) Assume I set use KOI8-R locale/codetable on my system. In that was I got some strange KOI8-R chars in various places because they match some letters from 8859-1! When default table is strictly ASCII, I don't see strange KOI8-R chars because they are disabled as supposed. So, I can't let European users live by price Russian/Japanese/etc. users death. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849