From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 2 9:24:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A6537B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12107.mail.yahoo.com (web12107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E97143E4A for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akachler@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021002162424.91374.qmail@web12107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.10.208] by web12107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:24:24 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Kachler Subject: Re: DNS (bind or djbdns or ???) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When you send a kill -HUP to named (Bind), the server never stops responding. It re-reads its configuration file and loads only the changes it encounters since the last time it was started or reloaded. I have no experience at all with DJBDNS, but Bind works for us. We use it for over 12,000 domains and it works perfectly. Regards, Arie Kachler SysAdmin/Telcom.Net Original Message: I tried DJBDNS, because I have 1000 domains to admin, and I wanted something where I didn't want to have to restart the whole daemon for every change like you do with BIND. but I found that DJBDNS is far worse because you have to recompile the whole database file everytime you change something and with 1000 domains each having there own stack of records, restarting bind is much faster result. I couldn't believe what a silly system DJBdns has for new records, I mean I was drawn to it because of its claim that you don't need to restart it for each change but recompiling a database with everything in it doesn't seem like a better idea to me. If someone could tell me otherwise I would like to hear it. Aside from having to restart BIND every time which I fear could cause people doing lookups for that brief time to get a dns lookup failure, I didn't at first like BIND's syntax that much and I still get caught all the time when I am not paying attention but I still stick with it, its a bit like learning how to ride a bike but every six months some one changes the peddles design :). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Jan Knepper" ; "FreeBSD ISP" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: RE: DNS (bind or djbdns or ???) > >I am currently running bind, but am investigating switching to djbdns. > >However a quick look told me that I will have to install daemontools too > >when I want to get that to work. Is this true? > >Any comments/advice please??? > >Thanks! > >Jan > > Word to the wise, do not compare BIND and DJBDNS... both camps will argue the > finer points forever. BIND users will argue that you just don't know how to use > it, and DJB apostles will counter with BIND is broke, and the viscious cycle > will continue... personally I find DJB's solution to DNS adminsitration easier > to use, propogate and automate for the application I use it for (ISP > adminsitration), and that is with 5 years of BIND under my belt. Needless to > say, there are plenty of qwerks with both camps. > > More to your question though... > > You do not HAVE to use daemontools AFAIK. However it is a nice package that you > may want to investigate thoroughly before you outright dismiss it. Personally, > I moved a few processes into the service realm for easy management. Again, > wouldn't use it for everything, but it is a usefull package. > > Check the djbdns mail list for further clarification > http://cr.yp.to/lists.html#dns > > Dave > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message