From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 10 08:39:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29690 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (www.degnet.baynet.de [194.95.214.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29506 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malte@webmore.com) Received: from tabara (unverified [194.95.214.160]) by cyclone.degnet.baynet.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:36:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980410172634.036729ec@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de> X-Sender: moos@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:26:35 +0000 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" From: Malte Lance Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" Cc: kris@airnet.net, "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:32 10.04.98 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >[redirecting followups to -chat] > >On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote: > >> At 08:42 10.04.98 -0500, Kris Kirby wrote: >> >Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >> >> >> >> FREEBSD - THE POWER TO SERVE >> >> FreeBSD: developed for years in secret in California, painstakingly >> >> started from 4.4BSD-Lite, is now revealed to the world. FreeBSD >> >> 2.2.6-RELEASE, with the power to run the largest web or FTP server, the >> > >> >Should say PC-based, IMHO. One more thing here: When surfing www.freebsd.org i always got the impression, FreeBSD is just a Server-OS for high-perf HTTP- and FTP-service. That's not true (for me). I use it for several allday-tasks like email, surfing, editing, writing letters, using Mathematica-3.0 (on 2.1.5 !!!), rendering, and for SW-development. >> "the environmental completness for highest-productive SW-development" >ooOOoo, I like it; it sounds great while saying absolutely nothing. The >perfect press relief material. ;) The point here is: Maybe it sounds interesting for developers-ears to read on. Saying nothing is ok as long as it sounds interesting ;) >> >> flexibility to be easily customized to ANY task, and the simplicity to be >> >> used sucessfullly by anyone, is now available on CD-ROM from Walnut Creek >> >> CDROM (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/freebsd.htm), or by FTP from >> >> ftp.freebsd.org. 2.2.6-RELEASE offers many features implemented over a >> >> rock solid base, stabler and more powerful even than many commercial >> >> The commercial OSes i know are far from being as stable as FreeBSD, so why not >> saying it: >> "FreeBSD offers with its 2.2.6-RELEASE the most stable and powerful operating- >> system, with uncounted features build over that rock-solid base." >I'm giving commercial releases the benefit of the doubt. Anything more >sounds too arrogant, IMNHO. Na ... there is no doubt. And if you are good/best there is nothing wrong with saying it. Do you believe in FreeBSD and its concept/stability ? Do you believe 100% ? If yes, then act this way. If not, then why are you using FreeBSD ? => You believe in FreeBSD! AND do you expect the commercial vendors to think and act as polite as you do? Promotion has NOTHING to do with being a nice guy. >> >> operating systems. You can keep up with new features as they are developed >> >> and implemented by Concurrent Version System, a revolutionary way to keep >> >> up with the lastest changes, through the 2.2.6-STABLE development branch. >> >> The bleeding-edge-staying-current part is needless here, IMHO ;) >Perhaps, but I'm trying to convey the scale through which you can decide >how much tinkering you want, as opposed to Linux where your only choice >is, essentially, -CURRENT. Yes but staying-STABLE is a very nice general feature that also servers to point out the unholy misfeature of just and only staying-CURRENT in Linux. I don't think the low-level-dumb-user as i am, wants to stay CURRENT. So this is no positive promotional point to the just-general interested potential user. BUT it is really worth mentioning in a more detailed promotional text. >> >> You can even advance to the absolute bleeding edge, with the absolute >> >> latest changes, advances, and features by following the 3.0-CURRENT >> >> development tree. >> >> Better mention the distribution-policy: >> "No need to mess up with various distributions from different vendors. >> With FreeBSD you get THE distribution, unique, welldefined and constantly >> extended to cover the newest powertools and software. Currently there are >> many thousand SW-packages and ports incorporated into FreeBSD-releases >> (from A like archiver, over M like Multimedia, or S like StarOffice to Z >> like ... (maybe zsh))." >Hm, 'Acrobat to Zsh'... it...could...WORK! Acrobat is something everybody knows. Zsh is not. Anything better for Z* than zsh ? Malte Lance malte@webmore.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message