From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 21 13:34:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419CC106564A; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8ED8FC0C; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p4FC432FB.dip.t-dialin.net [79.196.50.251]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CE46844009; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.Leidinger.net [IPv6:fd73:10c7:2053:1::3:102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0C682470; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1332336846; bh=K3+d+5RrZ1ToAqhRAGzb6Uq+CErWdTPkSI9tNZPWl34=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=BhSJiXudsh8vsiCQyERNgoYhXJmDvwunHq3NJkPNvWioblIsJlv/3EUF0qyFndPAE NfelQgEFK0zndktz6gfgQuNOXO1gAcocERAWtWDM6mHXSb14V+/i5if0Ybrzqz2Yjv SIOtO+/uN1Ebg9mmhmBSUTWi9lIfOF0MpqgUwSYNGJmIQNZ7edah8ZgeA5Cu3axKCR jQ/6IBvmDBIh4GGDdqvkJun3knfa09+xONK8aubykoU9KAvdzCZ3EvsWFFUpaUQPb+ QH9RobXT7Gnp9fLuVIvNM/qBXpdG8lduRb2TWhlk+wXvVbZgCifVcI1blX+mR0d5pX +w1NjiLMEr2TQ== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q2LDY6ox018755; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.leidinger.net: www set sender to Alexander@Leidinger.net using -f Received: from 85.94.224.21 ([85.94.224.21]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:34:03 +0100 Message-ID: <20120321143403.Horde.VhlEOJjmRSRPadjLnx7Eh8A@webmail.leidinger.net> From: Alexander Leidinger To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <20120319213508.GA1692@azathoth.lan> <20120320091935.GF1692@azathoth.lan> <20120320102008.GH2358@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H4 (5.0.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: 5CE46844009.A0A99 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.714, required 6, autolearn=disabled, AWL -0.60, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1332941649.6847@7WVjPzXLRAqXycDJMO8WCg X-EBL-Spam-Status: No Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ABI/architecture identification for packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:34:30 -0000 Quoting Bruce Cran (from Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:26:42 +0000): > On 20 Mar 2012, at 10:20, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > >> i386-32 and amd64-64 is weird and confusing. >> >> IMO, you should go either with x86-{32,64} names, or with i386/amd64, >> not with a mix. > > Would we ever want to support something like x32 from Linux (which > might be amd64-32)? > http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2011/ocw/sessions/531 Not related to x32, but related to the Linux keyword (yes, I'm in the wrong branch of this thread, but I don't have the root anymore): Can you please explain how the linuxulator ports (linux_base-*) fit into this? linux_base-f10 contains 32bit linux binaries, which run in the linuxulator on i386 and amd64. If someone steps up and finishes the 64bit linux emulation on amd64, we would be able to use a linux_base(32) and a linux_base64 (or however we want to name them then) on amd64 (both at the same time). The content of the packages generated on i386 can be used on amd64 (both are generated from the same linux binary RPMs and the few FreeBSD modifications are rm's, symlinks and config changes). Can you please explain and/or give examples which kind of metadata those ports would get? Bye, Alexander. -- Preserve wildlife -- pickle a squirrel today! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137