From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6C816A4CF for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEA943FCB for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAO20Hdg000646; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id hAO0qYWG039537; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:52:18 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Duncan Barclay Message-ID: <20031124005218.GA12820@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20031123225117.GA24696@dragon.nuxi.com> <017701c3b21f$f39bf340$43c8a8c0@orac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <017701c3b21f$f39bf340$43c8a8c0@orac> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:00:42 -0000 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 12:14:39AM -0000, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > From: "David O'Brien" > > > I'll seriously argue against the 2nd point above. I don't know of a > > SINGLE person that uses /bin/sh as their interactive shell when > > multi-user. Not ONE. Every Bourne shell'ish user I've ever met uses > > Bash, AT&T ksh, pdksh, zsh. > > I don't know anyone that farms lama's, so there cannot be any lama farmers. One has to make a strong statement to get the people to come out of the woodwork. > computer$ grep dmlb /etc/passwd > dmlb:*:1166:1166:Duncan Barclay:/home/dmlb:/bin/sh Good. Now do you need NSS support? Do the benefits of supporting NSS in /bin/sh for you out-weigh the performance issue of building it dynamically? Couldn't you just as easily use the pdksh port? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)