From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 23 22:30:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E797106566B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [69.147.83.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E628FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5NMUDLa051666 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p5NMUD1a051664; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <201106232230.p5NMUD1a051664@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "Julian H. 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Stacey" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Jerry , Robert Simmons Subject: bin/158238: diff: /etc/motd: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting. X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:30:13 -0000 >Number: 158238 >Category: bin >Synopsis: diff: /etc/motd: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-bugs >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 23 22:30:12 UTC 2011 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Julian H. Stacey >Release: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Linux Unix Consultancy, Munich/Muenchen. >Environment: System: FreeBSD fire.js.berklix.net 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 2 23:10:13 CEST 2011 jhs@blak.js.berklix.net:/ad6s4/release/8.2-RELEASE/src/sys/amd64/compile/FIRE64.small amd64 >Description: diff: /etc/motd: Tell people to subscribe questions@ before posting. To reduce noise on questions@ somewhat (& as a side effect, ensure newbies get all replies, (as some respondents just reply to lists, not to all previous thread participants, & some newbies might not realise. ) >How-To-Repeat: Read questions@ archive Subject: freebsd list admins? http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201106202352.24196.rsimmons0 obert Simmons "There seems to be a few email addresses that are subscribed to these lists that keep spamming it periodically" http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20110621074416.58869e66 Jerry "Unfortunately, this is an "open" list; ie, anyone subscribed or not can post. This leads to the inevitable problems that plague this forum." http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?201106212203.p5LM3NbI005159 "Julian H. Stacey" "I think we should: make questions@ list writable only to subscribers (if not already); & Edit /usr/src/etc/motd ... Should we send in a send-pr to edit src/etc/motd eg:" http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?BANLkTimoY58yWwdHYPrhKBzPQa0CYhxERw Robert Simmons "PR it. Sounds good." >Fix: A patch in diff -c format is appended below, & a spare copy here http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/src/gen/etc/motd.REL=ALL.diff *** 8.2-RELEASE/src/etc/motd Thu Jul 3 08:06:09 2003 --- new/src/etc/motd.new Thu Jun 23 22:58:31 2011 *************** *** 13,21 **** http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/. If the doc distribution has been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc. ! If you still have a question or problem, please take the output of ! `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email it ! as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. If you are unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7) manual page. If you are not familiar with manual pages, type `man man'. --- 13,22 ---- http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/. If the doc distribution has been installed, they're also available formatted in /usr/share/doc. ! If you still have a question or problem, please subscribe (free) via ! http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/subscribe/freebsd-questions then take ! the output of `uname -a', along with any relevant error messages, and email ! it as a question to the questions@FreeBSD.org mailing list. If you are unfamiliar with FreeBSD's directory layout, please refer to the hier(7) manual page. If you are not familiar with manual pages, type `man man'. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: