Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:32:45 +0000 From: Pawel Biernacki <pawel.biernacki@gmail.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? Message-ID: <CAA3htvsfYzCZHSSY3KgHuQ9OVLj0BjWER4iur35UA%2B_zpskO2A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAHcXP%2BfpPQSALs7CEx_tWwss5wy0cDt-QmfFFjSGxLCMUk9cuw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAHcXP%2Bf6e-t--XbQPTH1goJp_CL7P=zTj5trZVWd4YZ_EsO9gw@mail.gmail.com> <CAHcXP%2BfpPQSALs7CEx_tWwss5wy0cDt-QmfFFjSGxLCMUk9cuw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 26 January 2014 18:34, Big Lebowski <spankthespam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Big Lebowski <spankthespam@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:30 AM > Subject: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? > To: freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> > > > Hi everyone, > > I wanted to ask about the growing time of reaction to ports PR's - what i= s the problem? It seems to me, as a ports contributor, that this time is on= ly growing, not shrinking, and there's no formal/automated procedures that = would help in managing the issue. > > Today I found myself fighting with ezjail only to discover it has issues = working on FreeBSD 10.0-R. Great, I thought, there must be something else, = so I went to make the research. It appears there isnt much more, and the al= ternatives are qjail that seems to be quite dated and zjails, that's not in= ports. Not long after looking into zjails, what seems to be a great tool, = I found its port submission sits there since... September 2013. Now, given = the fact the Docker is on mouth of everyone, and containers are getting a l= ot of attention, FreeBSD looks really bad with no tools to manage such grea= t technology like Jails, especially when ezjail, unofficial industry standa= rd to manage jails, is now broken and zjails waits to be accepted (or even = rejected) for so much time. > > What is the problem? Isnt there enought commiters? Isnt there a automated= PR handling procedure reminding commiters with relevant access about such = submissions? Can we help? I hope to spark some discussion. > Maybe it's time to look at how other projects with comparable amount of contributed software manage to do it efficiently? How is that the Debian folks are able to keep nearly 50k packages in four stages (unstable, testing, stable, oldstable) not to mention branches like Hurd or kFreeBSD? Do they just have more committers or maybe it's a matter of involvement? Why? ports/svnadmin/conf/access shows 179 committers but how many of them is actually active? If they are no longer interested, do not have time or anything else maybe you should take the commit bit from them, not to make a false impression on amount of people involved? Just give a chance to another person who has time and wants to spend it working for the project - so for all of us. IMO it's better than deceiving yourself that there's nothing you can do about the long PRs queue, because you don't want to force others to do anything. We saw several volunteers here, let them act. --=20 One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die= .
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