From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Feb 12 9:21:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.psn.net (pluto.psn.net [207.211.58.12]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F13F40; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 09:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from 06-108.008.popsite.net ([209.69.196.108] helo=shadow.blackdawn.com) by pluto.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 3.12 #1) id 12JgE7-0007Hl-00; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 10:21:00 -0700 Received: by shadow.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9DA9F1AA7; Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:19:56 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Torsten Blum Cc: Bill Fumerola , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, shige@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: zsh re-org Message-ID: <20000212121956.B11463@shadow.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ torsenb@FreeBSD.org snipped from CC ] On Sat, Feb 12, 2000 at 09:59:55AM +0100, Torsten Blum wrote: > Zsh 3.1.x is still beta and as long as this is the case I am, as the > maintainer of ports/shells/zsh, _strongly_ against this. Having a stable > shell is IMHO the most important thing. If anyone wants to play with new > and cool features, that's fine for me. That's why we have zsh-devel. > Replacing ports/shells/zsh with -devel forces everyone else to use a beta. > This is definately not a good idea. *sigh* That's pure crap! I've used zsh-devel for several months (as a -static'd shell in /bin), and have never had problems with it. If you ask me, my biggest beef with shells/zsh is the fact that the maintainer ignores PRs related to it, forcing other committers such as Bill to take over their job for them. It's the Darren Reed/ipfilter deal all over again, and that just pisses the hell out of me. On two occassions, shige has committed fixes to shells/zsh-devel and even sent mail to you encouraging you to commit similar fixes. You ignored them completely - I never saw a single reply from you - NOT EVEN ONE! So much for being a maintainer. Besides, I maintain x11/rxvt and since updating it to use RXVT 2.7.1 (Chris Piazza updated to 2.7.2), it has been using a developmental version of RXVT. I used rxvt-devel for several months prior, and even submitted a port PR for that, but Chris just merged it with the current x11/rxvt port. Go figure. I've yet to hear people complaing about this port breaking anything on their system. Anyway, I back this merge. I will continue to do so until somebody gives me a reason why zsh-devel is broken in ways zsh isn't. And until you can prove you're gonna maintain the port! [ Annelise: what do you mean, "keep the user's history"? Did you look at the zshall/zshenv manpages? I keep user history with env. vars. ] -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message