From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 2 17:30:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AE737B41A for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20867 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 01:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Jan 2002 01:30:15 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020103003214.GC53199@cicely9.cicely.de> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: Re: When to use atomic_ functions? (was: 64 bit counters) Cc: Peter Jeremy , Michal Mertl , Bruce Evans , Mike Smith , Bernd Walter , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Jan-02 Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 04:02:14PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: >> :Look at PCPU_GET/PCPU_SET. Note that since an interrupt can preempt you >> :and >> :push you off onto another CPU, you have to use a critical section while >> :updating per-CPU variables. If desired, some kind of free area could be >> :stuck >> :in struct pcpu (or more likely, struct pcpu would hold a pointer to the >> :area) >> :that could be galloc/gfree'd or some such. >> : >> :-- >> : >> :John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ >> :"Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ >> >> Maybe we are going about this all wrong. If a particular interface >> counter can only be modified from the device interrupt, or only be >> modified while holding the appropriate mutex, do we need any locking >> at all? > > You need to hold the mutex while writing and reading. > If you hold the mutex only while writing another CPU might still use > old cached values. Yes. > The same goes for device interrrupt as it doesn't enshure inter CPU > consistency. Yes. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message