Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:41:51 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org> To: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> Cc: Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mystery: lock up after fs dump Message-ID: <20080604154151.GA29932@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <4846B5D9.1050903@icyb.net.ua> References: <4846AFC3.3050101@icyb.net.ua> <20080604152332.GE63348@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <4846B5D9.1050903@icyb.net.ua>
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On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:33:45PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 04/06/2008 18:23 Kostik Belousov said the following: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:07:47PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote: > [snip] > >> dumps are done on live filesystems using -L. > [snip] > >> 4. both systems have gjournal support (on 6.X it is added via a > >> "non-official" patch), there are gjournaled filesystems on both systems > >> and they are dumped. > > > > Do you use snapshots on the gjournaled fs ? I believe this is problematic. > > Yes, I do via dump -L. I don't otherwise (no mksnap_ffs). > I had some thoughts about that. > But... I remember discussing this on geom list and I think pjd said that > this should work and also it worked for me flawlessly except for that > one moment. > BTW, those filesystems are mounted like the following: > ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal > This is to say that I do not mix gjournal and softupdates, which is also > possible (at least not prohibited). I haven't seen hard system lock-ups when using dump (the -L on UFS2 systems is implied, but you're not using softupdates, so maybe it's not implied on such), but I have seen all I/O on the system lock up hard until the actual snapshot finishes being taken. I mentioned this a while ago on -stable (not sure; I can dig up the thread), and was told that essentially this is a known problem with snapshots on UFS2, and that the problem over time gets worse and worse. Ultimately I stopped using dump and switched to rsync. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
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