Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:52:13 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help? Message-ID: <44352B1D.4020905@utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060406094921.478b5cc3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <000001c65907$42db76c0$6401a8c0@thomas> <20060406094921.478b5cc3.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Bill Moran wrote: > > Don't use FreeBSD. I know this will be an unpopular post on this list, but > you've said a number of things that tell me that you will be unsuccessful > with FreeBSD: > 1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience > 2) You're coming from a Windows world > 3) You don't have time or patience > > #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2. FreeBSD _will_ take you > some time to understand. It _will_ take some time and effort to get it > working the way you want. Since you are totally new to it, it _will_ > require patience. > I'm going to second that. The biggest "shock" of moving to Unix is when you realize there isn't any GUI until you set one up. (That's not so true on many of the Linuxes anymore.) If you're serious about moving to Unix but you don't have the patience and time to learn, download Knoppix and use it for a while. Once you're more familiar with how things work, then you can dive in to the details. In the Windows world you're used to things like Flash and Java and Media Player "just working" in your browser, printing "just working", etc., etc.. Not true in FreeBSD. Even the GUI itself doesn't "just work". You have to be able to troubleshoot and determine the causes of problems, and sometimes that can take a while If you have the patience and the time, then by all means, jump right in, but don't expect to be surfing the web on your first day. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ [-- Attachment #2 --] 0 *H 01 0 + 0 *H 00At"0 *H 01 0 UUS10U VeriSign, Inc.1<0:U 3Class 2 Public Primary Certification Authority - G21:08U 1(c) 1998 VeriSign, Inc. - For authorized use only1 0 U VeriSign Trust Network0 990331000000Z 070114235959Z01'0%U The University of Texas System1 0 U VeriSign Trust Network1;09U 2Terms of use at https://www.verisign.com/rpa (c)991200U )Class 2 CA - OnSite Individual Subscriber1-0+U$The University of Texas at Dallas CA00 *H 0 "zھ6p`0`S/5ɨ)=d}чTxxLIA ҥ~BQNths]1)%c#Dj9FXúKzI#C2 00)U "0 0 10UPrivateLabel1-1400 `HB0DU =0;09 `HE0*0(+ https://www.verisign.com/RPA0U 0 0 U 0 *H /6N,G`jq 1H $T ApiJEe!<J:J2P#ڨl(L BJXNX L5$USyy|CcG{ HMО10s0ܠ!Cl6Vhp0 *H 01'0%U The University of Texas System1 0 U VeriSign Trust Network1;09U 2Terms of use at https://www.verisign.com/rpa (c)991200U )Class 2 CA - OnSite Individual Subscriber1-0+U$The University of Texas at Dallas CA0 050810000000Z 060810235959Z01'0%U The University of Texas System1-0+U $The University of Texas at Dallas CA1F0DU =www.verisign.com/repository/CPS Incorp. by Ref.,LIAB.LTD(c)9910U Mail Stop - UTD10U Paul Schmehl1!0 *H pauls@utdallas.edu00 *H 0 ġ9"S,/D'ɺLsX3a +ga,ӌP$X^$X'l V^ŒPN3Jyfy(KRT؈P&8zƫ?=u[X}S)$-| I 00 U 0 0 U 0pauls@utdallas.edu0$U 00 `HE00++ https://www.verisign.com/rpa-kr0+0NOTICE: Private key may be recovered by VeriSign's customer who may be able to decrypt messages you send to certificate holder. 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