From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 15:15:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BBE16A418; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@riscworks.net) Received: from relay.riscworks.net (v32231.1blu.de [88.84.154.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8363F13C4D3; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timo.schoeler@riscworks.net) Received: from zoidberg.riscworks.net (f054174248.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.174.248]) by relay.riscworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8DC6F1898; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from zoidberg.riscworks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.riscworks.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A7A21D20; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:15:51 +0100 From: Timo Schoeler To: Harti Brandt Message-Id: <20080111161551.f708f5ac.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> In-Reply-To: <20080111155532.Q60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> References: <47873B06.9010603@riscworks.net> <200801111058.m0BAwAMG001075@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080111140144.59498431.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <47876B39.3040703@FreeBSD.org> <20080111145128.abb76a0a.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <20080111145557.C60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20080111150529.e96a7b1d.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <20080111155532.Q60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> Organization: RISCworks Environtech X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Harti Brandt , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:15:48 -0000 Thus Harti Brandt spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:59:52 +0100 (CET): > On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote: > > TS>Thus Harti Brandt spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 > TS>14:59:26 +0100 (CET): > TS> > TS>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote: > TS>> > TS>> TS>No, I didn't. I said that the work is done ineffectively as > TS>> TS>he's doing underprioritized stuff. Working on higher > TS>> TS>prioritized stuff would be more efficient, and would help the > TS>> TS>project even more. > TS>> TS> > TS>> TS>Given the assumption that the developer is able to do both, > TS>> TS>the Xmas tree as well as importing ZFS v9 into the tree. > TS>> TS> > TS>> TS>(I don't see the point that when somebody is really *capable* > TS>> TS>of doing both things, why should (s)he do the 'lower > TS>> TS>priority' thing. If you are at the olympic stadium and you're > TS>> TS>the best sprinter, you wouldn't join the marathon...!) > TS>> > TS>> Sorry, this is just crap. I'm a rather bad guitar player, at > TS>> least much worse than I'm a programmer. Yet I enjoy playing Joe > TS>> Pass at 1/4 the speed while I could import ZFS during that > TS>> time ... People just bring to FreeBSD what they like to do, not > TS>> what would be the best for you or others. If you want them to > TS>> change priorities according to YOUR needs, pay them money. > TS>> > TS>> harti > TS> > TS>Harti, you didn't get the point. You can also lead you dog into my > TS>yard, as long as you don't work on FreeBSD noone cares, really. The > TS>difference is *when* working on FreeBSD *what* do to -- xmas tree > TS>or ZFS. > TS> > TS>I thought this argumentation was pretty straightforward, but > TS>sometimes 2 +2 is really 5... > > I don't see the difference between working on what I like to work on > in FreeBSD and leading my dog (if I had one). It's just my choice > because it is my time. If I'd be paid for working on FreeBSD, it'd be > different. If I find the xmas tree controller more interesting than > ZFS why should I work on ZFS? Because the project would profit more of it than working on the /dev/uxmas. > You assumption is that it matters for > you on what I work, No, it'd be good for the whole community, what includes/included me, sure. > but it doesn't matter for me, so I could just > work on what is good for you. Huh? > Well, this entire thread is just utterly off-topic. No, it goes down to the very core. > harti Timo