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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:53:23 +0100
From:      Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Help review the FAQ
Message-ID:  <50B3D6C3.1010400@ose.nl>
In-Reply-To: <50B3D096.8020207@ose.nl>
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On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote:
> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote:
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should  be added to
>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now,
>> when SU+J is default.

Please also add:
SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a live filesystem i.e. use snapshot.
If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates 
journal for that filesystem

>
> Add to FAQ 9.4 Which partitions can safely use Soft Updates? I have 
> heard that Soft Updates on / can cause problems.
>
> Journaled Soft Updates (SU+J) is now default on FreeBSD 9.x-RELEASE 
> installs.
> This feature keeps a journal on soft updates which avoids a background 
> filesystem check and speeds up a filesystem check during boot to a few 
> seconds or less.
> For history and technical details see:
> http://jeffr-tech.livejournal.com/22716.html
> and
> http://www.*bsdcan*.org/2010/schedule/attachments/141_suj-slides.pdf
>
> This can also be enabled/disabled with tunefs -j enable | disable
> For more information see man 8 tunefs
>
> ----------------
>
> New FAQ 9.28 I have heard about TRIM for Solid State Drives (SSD), is 
> it supported by FreeBSD?
>
> The TRIM filesystem flag is very useful for devices that use 
> flash-memory (SSD for instance) and support the BIO_DELETE command.
> This flag is not enabled by default and can be enabled/disabled with 
> tunefs -t enable | disable
> For more information see man 8 tunefs
>      -t enable | disable
>              Turn on/off the TRIM enable flag.  If enabled, and if the 
> under-
>              lying device supports the BIO_DELETE command, the file 
> system
>              will send a delete request to the underlying device for each
>              freed block.  The trim enable flag is typically set when the
>              underlying device uses flash-memory as the device can use 
> the
>              delete command to pre-zero or at least avoid copying 
> blocks that
>              have been deleted.
>
> Important when using tunefs:
>      This utility does not work on active file systems.  To change the 
> root
>      file system, the system must be rebooted after the file system is 
> tuned.
>
> FIlesystems have to be mounted read-only or not mounted at all





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