From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sat Feb 25 13:49:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D18CCEC957 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmi@dsl-only.net) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-mail-210-85.reflexion.net [208.70.210.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C116BC32 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmi@dsl-only.net) Received: (qmail 10081 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2017 13:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 25 Feb 2017 13:51:53 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v8.30.0) with SMTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 08:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 26312 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2017 13:49:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 25 Feb 2017 13:49:42 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.111] (c-67-170-167-181.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.170.167.181]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 425EAEC86E2; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 05:49:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r313268 - head/sys/kern [through -r313271 for atomic_fcmpset use and later: fails on PowerMac G5 "Quad Core"; -r313266 works] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <477BA631-AB85-4E77-8BA3-CD2AFAD5E405@dsl-only.net> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 05:49:40 -0800 Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current , Justin Hibbits , mjg@freebsd.org, FreeBSD PowerPC ML Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2FD12B8F-2255-470A-98D4-2DCE9C7495F5@dsl-only.net> <20170220191044.GA8526@dft-labs.eu> <5D5235E1-6F84-4329-8ED5-35FCDB0A6A71@dsl-only.net> <20170225002300.GC19697@dft-labs.eu> <12339EDD-5663-40E0-8553-821EF9B6CDEB@dsl-only.net> <477BA631-AB85-4E77-8BA3-CD2AFAD5E405@dsl-only.net> To: Mateusz Guzik X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:49:45 -0000 On 2017-Feb-25, at 1:05 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2017-Feb-24, at 11:46 PM, Mark Millard = wrote: >=20 >> On 2017-Feb-24, at 8:25 PM, Mark Millard = wrote: >>=20 >>> On 2017-Feb-24, at 4:23 PM, Mateusz Guzik = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 01:37:25AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>>>> [Back to the powerpc64 context.] >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 2017-Feb-20, at 11:10 AM, Mateusz Guzik = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 04:18:05AM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>>>>>> [Note: I experiment with clang based powerpc64 builds, >>>>>>> reporting problems that I find. Justin is familiar >>>>>>> with this, as is Nathan.] >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I tried to update the PowerMac G5 (a so-called "Quad Core") >>>>>>> that I have access to from head -r312761 to -r313864 and >>>>>>> ended up with random panics and hang ups in fairly short >>>>>>> order after booting. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Some approximate bisecting for the kernel lead to: >>>>>>> (sometimes getting part way into a buildkernel attempt >>>>>>> for a different version before a failure happens) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -r313266: works (just before use of atomic_fcmpset) >>>>>>> vs. >>>>>>> -r313271: fails (last of the "use atomic_fcmpset" check-ins) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> (I did not try -r313268 through -r313270 as the use was >>>>>>> gradually added.) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> So I'm currently running a -r313864 world with a -r313266 >>>>>>> kernel. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> No kernel that I tried that was from before -r313266 had the >>>>>>> problems. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any kernel that I tried that was from after -r313271 had the >>>>>>> problems. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Of course I did not try them all in other direction. :) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I found that spin mutexes were not properly handling this, fixed = in >>>>>> r313996. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Locally I added a if (cpu_tick() % 2) return (0); snipped to = amd64 >>>>>> fcmpset to simulate failures. Everything works, while it would = easily >>>>>> fail without the patch. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> That said, I hope this concludes the 'missing check for = not-reread value >>>>>> of failed fcmpset' saga. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --=20 >>>>>> Mateusz Guzik >>>>>=20 >>>>> -r313999 is an improvement for powerpc64: it boots and I can >>>>> log in on the old PowerMac G5 so-called "Quad Core". >>>>>=20 >>>>> But, e.g., buildworld buildkernel eventually hangs and later >>>>> the powerpc64 panics for "spin lock held too long". >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Allright, play time is over. >>>>=20 >>>> Can you please: >>>> 1. verify r313254 is stable for you >>>> 2. apply = https://people.freebsd.org/~mjg/patches/complete-locks.diff and >>>> https://people.freebsd.org/~mjg/.junk/ppc.diff on top of it and = retry >>>> the test? >>>>=20 >>>> This is a workaround which effectively disables the = powerpc-specific >>>> primitive and makes it use a cmpset wrapper instead. I don't have = the >>>> hardware to test right now and my attempts to boot in qemu also = failed. >>>>=20 >>>> That said, does not look like there are general fcmpset bugs left = and >>>> the remaining issue seems powerpc-specific. >>>>=20 >>>> If this works, I'll commit the workaround for the time being as in = few >>>> weeks I'd like to start merging the work back to stable/11. >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Mateusz Guzik >>>=20 >>> I've started a self-hosted powerpc64 -r313254 build >>> based on running the -r313266 kernel. (The context=20 >>> sometimes do cross builds in is tied up with other >>> things. -r313266 is what my prior bisection came up >>> with as the last appearently-working kernel at the >>> time.) >>>=20 >>> So it will be a while before I have a -r313254 in >>> place to try: the self-hosted build takes longer >>> and so will not be installed for a while. >>>=20 >>> To judge stability I'll probably have -e313254 build >>> the patched update that you want me to test, initially >>> doing a cleanworld. So that too will take a while. >>>=20 >>> (The above wording presumes all goes well.) >>>=20 >>> I'll let you know as I go along if I run into anything >>> interesting. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> My builds are rebuilding both world and kernel since >>> what turns into /usr/include/sys/* has changes in your >>> patch. >>>=20 >>> The builds are without MALLOC_PRODUCTION but are >>> otherwise not debug builds. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I've not seen anything indicating that anyone has >>> been trying TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc. I've been trying >>> TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 . >>>=20 >>> While I do not have access to a true >>> TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc machine currently, such a build >>> can be used on a PowerMac G5 so-called "Quad Core". >>> So I could eventually build and try such on the one >>> powerpc family machine that I currently have access >>> to. >>>=20 >>> clang 3.9.1 has a significant code generation problem >>> for TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc and so I'd have to use >>> a gcc 4.2.1 based build for that sort of experiment. >>> (There is no xtoolchain for 32-bit powerpc.) >>>=20 >>> I use clang 3.9.1 or xtoolchain for >>> TARGET_ARCH=3Dpowerpc64 and have been using clang 3.9.1 >>> in recent times. My primary powerpc family use has >>> been to experiment with building based on the >>> modern libc++ and reporting issues discovered in the >>> attempts. This explains the clang/xtoolchain context. >>>=20 >>> clang 3.9.1 has major problems for C++ exception >>> handling for both powerpc64 and powerpc but a >>> lot of FreeBSD is independent of throwing C++ >>> exceptions. By contrast xtoolchain-based works >>> for C++ exception handling but lib32 fails >>> to operate when built by a xtoolchain build. >>=20 >> -r313254 had no trouble booting or building >> the patched version or anything else involved >> in getting there or installing. >>=20 >> But the patched version failed quickly just >> attempting cleanworld's recursive remove. (So >> it did boot and let me log in.) The panic >> description was: >>=20 >> panic: vn_finished_secondary_write: neg cnt >>=20 >>=20 >> The sources that are different from svn's -r313254 >> are (some tied to arm64 experiments, most everything >> else tied to powerpc64 and/or powerpc, those not >> from your patches are long standing from my >> investigations or from Justin H.): >>=20 >> # svnlite status /usr/src | sort >> . . . (ignoring the ? lines) . . . >> M /usr/src/bin/sh/jobs.c >> M /usr/src/bin/sh/miscbltin.c >> M /usr/src/contrib/llvm/lib/Target/PowerPC/PPCInstrInfo.td >> M /usr/src/contrib/llvm/tools/lld/ELF/Target.cpp >> M /usr/src/lib/csu/powerpc64/Makefile >> M /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/Makefile >> M /usr/src/sys/arm/arm/gic.c >> M /usr/src/sys/boot/ofw/Makefile.inc >> M /usr/src/sys/boot/powerpc/Makefile.inc >> M /usr/src/sys/boot/powerpc/kboot/Makefile >> M /usr/src/sys/boot/uboot/Makefile.inc >> M /usr/src/sys/conf/kmod.mk >> M /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_main.c >> M /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_script.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/init_main.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_condvar.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lock.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lockstat.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_rwlock.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sx.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_thread.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_lock.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_default.c >> M /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c >> M /usr/src/sys/powerpc/include/atomic.h >> M /usr/src/sys/powerpc/ofw/ofw_machdep.c >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/lock.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/lockmgr.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/lockstat.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/mutex.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/rwlock.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/sdt.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/sx.h >> M /usr/src/sys/sys/systm.h >=20 > To recover from the problem and again have a buildworld > buildkernel present I've booted based on: >=20 > A) The -r313254 kernel without your patches (kernel.old). > B) The -r313254 world (which had your patches in its > build). >=20 > I've reverted the /usr/src/ to not have your patches > (but does have my prior ones from prior activity). >=20 > I repeated the cleanworld to let it finish after its > prior failure (that failed during a SSD trim activity). >=20 > I've started buildworld buildkernel (with -j 4 as is > normal for my context). >=20 > So far this combination seems to be working fine. This > suggests that the sys/sys/*.h files that ended up in > /usr/include/sys/ and the sys/powerpc/include/atomic.h > that ended up in /usr/include/machine/ were not problems > as used in the world code --since those uses are still in > place in the binaries being used. Only the kernel > binaries seem to be a problem (not necessarily all of > them). Unfortunately it eventually got a panic for a Data Storage Interrupt. I may not be unable to do a self hosted build to get things back to normal.=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net