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Sun, 29 Oct 2017 10:15:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.22.174 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Oct 2017 10:15:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <61210249-105c-974c-1dae-1837e5969054@metricspace.net> References: <13959.1509132270@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171028022557.GE96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <23376.1509177812@critter.freebsd.dk> <20171028123132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org> <24228.1509196559@critter.freebsd.dk> <28039.1509260726@critter.freebsd.dk> <61210249-105c-974c-1dae-1837e5969054@metricspace.net> From: Ben Laurie Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 17:15:14 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: YL3p4S4Fawfv-h3A9jWw9YR424Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: Crypto overhaul To: Eric McCorkle X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:31:47 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list Cc: Benjamin Kaduk , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-security@freebsd.org security" , Poul-Henning Kamp , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-ESC7-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ESC7-MailScanner-ID: 192E24652AF.A5B23 X-ESC7-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ESC7-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.889, required 3, autolearn=disabled, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI -5.00, T_DKIM_INVALID 0.01) X-ESC7-MailScanner-From: root@mx0.esc7.net X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 23:48:20 -0000 On 29 October 2017 at 15:17, Eric McCorkle wrote: > On 10/29/2017 09:46, bf wrote: >> On 10/29/17, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> -------- >>> In message , Eric >>> McCorkl >>> e writes: >>>> On 10/28/2017 09:15, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>>> -------- >>>>> In message <20171028123132.GF96685@kduck.kaduk.org>, Benjamin Kaduk >>>>> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> I would say that the 1.1.x series is less bad, especially on the last >>>>>> count, >>>>>> but don't know how much you've looked at the differences in the new >>>>>> branch. >>>>> >>>>> While "less bad" is certainly a laudable goal for OpenSSL, I hope >>>>> FreeBSD has higher ambitions. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'm curious about your thoughts on LibreSSL as a possible option. >>> >>> It retains the horrible APIs, so the potential improvement is finite. >>> >> >> OpenBSD started the task of making OpenSSL easier to use by adding >> things like libtls >> >> (see https://man.openbsd.org/tls_init ) >> >> on top of their backwards-compatible libssl. There are similar >> efforts in other libraries like NaCl and its forks, such as libsodium >> ( cf. https://nacl.cr.yp.to/features.html and >> https://www.gitbook.com/book/jedisct1/libsodium/details ). Are these >> the kind of changes you are suggesting? > > I know the LibreSSL roadmap includes more plans to improve the API > design to make it more usable. > > Overall, I think LibreSSL is the best option, though there needs to be > some investigation into how easily it can be used for kernel and > boot-loader purposes. Things like libsodium are too narrow in their > focus, and BearSSL is too new. > > Plus the fact that LibreSSL originates from one of the BSDs and has its > backing is a significant advantage, I think. Mostly it originates from OpenSSL. :-) _______________________________________________ freebsd-security@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-security-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"