From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 26 15:51:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838A4AF42C for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtpg.telissant.net (smtpg.telissant.net [104.225.1.73]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Chj0c5r10z4f8R for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from sacada.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Chj0V0gXxz1lvRP for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:51:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at telissant.net Received: from smtpg.telissant.net ([127.0.0.1]) by sacada.3dresearch.com (sacada.3dresearch.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FMVQf-yHXsNv for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from bufftemp.3dresearch.com (unknown [71.112.244.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bufftemp@sacada.3dresearch.com) by smtpg.telissant.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Chj0T57Ncz1lvRB for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from bufftemp.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bufftemp.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4193B185F7 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:51:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:50:32 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Console resolution/font size Message-Id: <20201126105032.8bb06de2648f455d9fa55453@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20201125191258.6130f490.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20201125020318.30f5921d6fee3e267945a243@3dresearch.com> <20201125120342.642137e5543f8d9ee25d84a9@3dresearch.com> <20201125191258.6130f490.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Chj0c5r10z4f8R X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of web@3dresearch.com designates 104.225.1.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=web@3dresearch.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ENVFROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[104.225.1.73:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:104.225.1.0/24, country:US]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[71.112.244.15:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[3dresearch.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[104.225.1.73:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_SERVICE_ACCT(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:51:13 -0000 On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:12:58 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 18:17:03 +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 12:03:42PM -0500 schrieb Janos Dohanics: > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 09:45:06 +0100 > > > Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > > > > [...] > > > > This is not something one want to have. > > The only idea I have is to increase the delay of the boot menue. > > It is already 10 seconds. For a Thinkpad T480, 10 seconds should > be more than sufficient for the screen to switch modes (if it > actually does that)... Increasing the delay to 20 sec made no difference. > On modern hardware, it is absolutely important to load the correct > KMS drivers, and it's possible to play with fonts. All of this is > not really documented well, and personally I still consider it to > be a bit experimental because vt can still not sufficiently do what > sc could do for decades. There are many variables and moving parts, > such as graphics card and driver, UEFI, display internal firmware, > ant-tiny fonts, ugly colors, and all that, also DRM drivers and how > and when they are loaded. A _text_ mode (per definition) no longer > exists, it's all some kind of graphics mode. You need to experiment > with screen size and fonts if you want to get a readable non-X11 > mode on your machine. > > Two sources of information are those: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > Also check the related manual pages, especially "man 5 loader.conf". > > Or say goodbye to "text mode" entirely and use X instead. It makes > life a lot easier. ;-) Thanks for the pointers. -- Janos Dohanics