From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 13 08:03:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEA81065675 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285F58FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,216,1228089600"; d="scan'208";a="55259290" Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2008 08:03:49 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 639255CF6; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:00:45 +0000 (GMT) To: Jerry McAllister References: <20081212015814.GB32982@kokopelli.hydra> <200812112345.20572.perlcat@alltel.net> <20081212174607.GC36348@kokopelli.hydra> <4942B6A3.504@gmail.com> <18754.48923.616173.319215@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20081212205614.GB37185@kokopelli.hydra> <31371229120906@webmail12.yandex.ru> <87iqppdlzh.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081213002037.F5665@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <877i64c3zt.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081213015514.GA47452@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Memorial: Saint Lucy, virgin and martyr, A.D. 2008 From: Glyn Millington Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:00:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20081213015514.GA47452@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> (Jerry McAllister's message of "Fri\, 12 Dec 2008 20\:55\:14 -0500") Message-ID: <86bpvgmrma.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:22:30 +0000 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Chad Perrin , Usr Random , Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:03:51 -0000 Jerry McAllister writes: > But, we can _gently_ (it hasn't always been so gentle) teach > newbies that the list is meant for something higher than just > repeatedly ragging on why isn't FreeBSD more like MS or RHEL > or whatever. Or even "why isn't FreeBSD more like FreeBSD used to be back in the day?" As a newcomer to FreeBSD (who will never be a programmer or serious sysadmin) I'm grateful for the firm but fair approach taken here by most people, for the toleration of my occasional inanities, and for helpful answers. I'm also grateful to Chad for helping me look at again at Compiz-fusion - I prefer fvwm myself, but CF IS gorgeous, no doubt about it, and my eleven year old thinks its cool :-) atb Glyn