From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Apr 16 09:55:25 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA06348 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:55:25 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA06342 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 09:55:23 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA23337; Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:57:48 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199504161657.MAA23337@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: your mail To: ianw@ee.su.oz.au (Ian Wynne) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 1995 12:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Ian Wynne" at Apr 16, 95 12:54:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3260 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI there ppl, > > Hello Everyone: > > I haven't posted this to any of the news groups because I thought it would > only serve as flame bait. > > In my day job I'm a network administrator for a small network using > a Windos NT server. When the server is heavely loaded, it crashes. Sometimes >after it's crashed one of the user permissions has been corrupted ( and perhaps > > When Windows NT 3.5 is powering up it says it's build number 807, so there > have bee 806 previous attempts and it's still unstable. > > I use FreeBSD at home and I haven't been able to make it crash by loading it up.I can untar something from tape, gunzip something and compile something else > all the same time, it slows but doesn't stop. > > I've found FreeBSD to be very stable. Well , I have FreeBSD 2.1Dev. installed on P5/90-128Mb RAM/1+4Gb HDD/ SCSI/PCI with 30-35 users working in the same time , elm'ing,pine'ing,tin'ing,gzipping/gunzipping/(un)tarring, running Bots ( alas ) and doing god_only_knows_what_else, while happy author runs the X11 - some 2 Emacs'es + gdb , gnuchess under xboard , plus 4-6 xterm sessions on the local net - and it works incredibly fast and pretty stable ( hopefully I've fixed the problem with X server ( S3) freezing the sytem sporadically, due to the help of folx here // they helped me to solve the problem - not to freeze the system // ). The load average is somewhere between 0.2 - 1.5%. To be short - the guys from FreeBSD team've made a GREAT job. Personnaly I've found this mailing lists as well as usenet groups dedicated to the FreeBSD the best tech. support I've seen :) _All questions I asked here were answered the same day . The BSD community grows day by day. I do not see any alternative to the FreeBSD conserning user servers for Internet providers. Providing one has a pretty good brand of PC - he/she can build a very stable and fast server ... The same time capricious nature of PC's architecture provides bottomless supply of problems for OS developers - incl. Windows/OS-2/Unices. Other problem FreeBSD users face with is lack of the commercial apps they used to have on Windos/DOS ... It's quite obvious that Microsoft - the main ... well , reseller/manufacter of the SW for the PC's is _not interested in porting the apps to Unix platforms . The only app I'm aware of is MS Word. A huge amount of time was spent porting FoxPro to Unix. Other SW manufacters are much more democratic ... at least considering _commercial flavors of Unix. Anyone , who works with Unix/X11 long enough understands that properly written app. can be ported to _any graphical environment pretty fast - incl. Windows/X11/MacOS I think we all here will have no problemo paying for the commercial product for the FreeBSD. Equal amount of money to that we pay for say , Windows version. As sysadmin I'm pretty satisfied with free products I have on my system , but users as always want all apps they used to have on Windows to work on the Unix. They don't want to know the difference between different OS'es I hope that some sunny day they will start porting apps to Unix/X11 , incl.FreeBSD , and from that day on will use much more #ifdef's in their new products ;) Rashid.