Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:53:06 +0100 From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> To: "Andrew C. Hornback" <achornback@worldnet.att.net> Cc: <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Anthony's e-mail snip class, take one (was: Re: Microsoft Advocacy?) Message-ID: <012c01c188f0$b09a10e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <003301c188ee$4d9e52a0$6600000a@ach.domain>
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Andrew writes: > I seriously don't appreciate you putting words > in my mouth or taking the entire reply in the > context it was written. I haven't. I postulated a position on your part and asked you to clarify if that is indeed your position. > I welcome discussion of any operating system. Then why do you feel that discussion of Microsoft--publisher of the most successful operating system on the planet--should be excluded? And if you feel that discussion of Microsoft is off-topic, can you explain the greater relevance of a thread that you entitle "Anthony's e-mail snip class"? > However, I will not stand by while FreeBSD is made > into a pariah by someone who has relatively little > experience with it. If anyone does that, I'll count on you to jump to FreeBSD's defense. > Again, you're putting words in my mouth ... Where have I done that? "Putting words in your mouth" would mean misquoting you, but I haven't quoted you at all beyond the backquotes I've extracted directly from your own posts. > ... and I'm going to refrain from engaging further > in your witch hunt with me as the target. I believe I've heard this somewhere before. > You seem to read what you want in a post, manipulate > it the way that you want when you reply, and > attempt to make out as if people have said > things that they have not. No, I find the logical inconsistencies in a position and point them out. To people who do not reflect upon what they say before they say it, this can admittedly be very irritating--but that is their problem, not mine. > I agree that Microsoft should be discussed, but not > held up as a shining beacon of what FreeBSD is > striving to become. Nobody has done that. Like many people here, you appear to interpret any non-positive mention of FreeBSD at all in relation to a Microsoft product as some sort of attack on FreeBSD, rather than just an observation--and additionally you seem to take it personally. This makes a poor impression on anyone to whom you which to address your advocacy of FreeBSD, as it looks a lot like religion, rather than reason. > I disagree with the usage of this forum to > praise Microsoft while at the same time blasting > FreeBSD for not being more like Microsoft. I have neither praised nor blasted either of these operating systems. I don't invest any emotion into my discussions. I suppose others may be doing that, but it might be more productive to take that up directly with them. > > If these titles won't work properly without it, > > then it would seem that it is the best operating > > system for those titles, no? > > That's why I have two machines that I use primarily. You haven't answered the question: If these titles won't work properly without Windows 98, then Windows 98 is necessarily the best operating system for those titles--do you or do you not agree, and why? > Is it really any business of yours? It certainly is, on a mailing list dedicated to advocacy of FreeBSD. If the applications for which people use the OS are top secret, it's going to be extremely hard to promote the operating system. I use FreeBSD as a server. It provides e-mail services and DNS services, currently, and it also serves as a prototype system for my production Web site (which also runs FreeBSD). > Yes I do, and yes I have in the past. How do you use the FreeBSD systems you run as servers? > So, because I'm a FreeBSD advocate ... then I'm > suddenly an immature FreeBSD zealot in your eyes? I said nothing of the kind. You inferred that I was speaking of you--which says something in itself. Just because I insist on taking a balanced viewpoint of operating systems does not mean that I am a basher of FreeBSD or a sycophant of Microsoft. > Hmm... could someone wake me when Anthony's opinion > matters to anyone but himself? It must matter a great deal to you, given the effort you expend here in attempts to discredit it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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