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Date:      Wed, 26 May 1999 07:28:00 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Robert Withrow <witr@rwwa.com>, Sergey <serge69@nym.alias.net>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Subject:   Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990526072800.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au>

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On 26-May-99 jonathan michaels wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

>> nothing else.  Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a
> 
> be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always 
> read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, 
> as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now.

Bullshit...

As long as I know Jordan know, that's roughly about 9-12 months, on the
lists as well as IRC, I tend to know Jordan as someone who's willing to
help/give advice in a nice way. But with every thing out there, plainless
lack of knowledge by not reading docs such as the handbook/FAQ or other
equivalent works (freebsdzine.org daemonnews.org freebsddiary.com) is a
your own fault.

People saw this thread only from a pure user/developer perspective. Now
look at it from a workflow perspective. The mail from Sergey, plus other
pr's I see in the gnats database clearly lack all components to make
accurate suggestions on the next steps possible, and after more than 10000
pr's I can imagine people getting tired of dragging info out of people.

It can be as simple as noting the error after certain actions took place.
Or as elaborate as booting with -v, crashdumping the OS and gdb'ing it.

And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there,
once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs...

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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven                asmodai(at)wxs.nl
        The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project 
Network/Security Specialist      <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
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