From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Jan 29 21:04:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FFF1FEA06 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound2m.ore.mailhop.org (outbound2m.ore.mailhop.org [54.149.155.156]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487GFl3JZ1z4BT0 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1580331881; cv=none; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; b=TJP7O2NtC9nkZZxdk7UjSkOiBqgsKQzYnYYs2K+7ODbxkAGthk1GZEOwA5vdZzaMkIEUCcMOW8Ybs YYZsFAfqIM+7jTMJnQQpUAcYFZZpFCtO5huzI2m1ER6XmJiW3MC28o56PTjIxYouS4Rd7NlL/oA1Hf nva3E4T9lLjh6+nfbMa3vpxqN3jC6BvvW/Ukn8BCkakr9RiZ9Ghsx1CKpHy85k1UNGov9jGOmnNAPh JSbQubuXdMO3XZNTWqC/AO0/LH544iQKxTJqdRJcMhkgN/xQ6+2/tR1IG3Y1PeEkyBks+CpDU2PTkj 8oAN5ja7WW64yuJAA2ZID4etgZYYxVg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:dkim-signature:from; bh=C7bWcApPG4B2AH1meKozc1wBdciADvBXAbgJg3gxCk4=; b=jcKQamI22sE4LiLCOzz0zXSW+2qNyFuQ6ID1Qe1WfKGQWyHUTWVaw9A5SjdPMhu+crX4C1RAOC1U4 vixy5ovoUJSpm7ue1d6Mrg1eoNVbTF0IEodPOGvRbbweG+DVGbS7ycZxLjV0X1I6beIXZlwkc/ywqj iFRb6PiHOZUnsk58KCW6/Xe4xTmT3ua7C8u4Q2+cedwv7MYhgtWOi/OkZfVLHi5rRVU9Ldxl6amCMb UOEG/P/EbQ/9PnuG1eKgQrav1gahMpBkxV7unOsnwAoU5AZa5v24bhmvDr9yygBG/GX80ezZP0DLp9 /uJDrlyueo+36wNNYM6KemDtJ6ZO7ng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; outbound4.ore.mailhop.org; spf=softfail smtp.mailfrom=freebsd.org smtp.remote-ip=67.177.211.60; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org; arc=none header.oldest-pass=0; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=dkim-high; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=C7bWcApPG4B2AH1meKozc1wBdciADvBXAbgJg3gxCk4=; b=LyMztkbVuh2iU6TwkTq8OATOWB2DKey/CMJG9QaNHhufj9+rv5rI8CG6KCjqMIYV5dWUmvdsv0eSM bG+x42aQWJLsQBg3wK0YjXtrk21TgmitmvbNqjn7/3R8drJNP9XnDv1WWBAEsbRKBBr/4B9OMGYWsy 0JfaCEirqKYEmZy5f0W/Rl2anZpiEMLub1GOvEYmyGfh4grbzEvMfsJKKXQo+IcZnEXwIPwjwe8l60 488r8FB9UFwTWCOyQPblQE9K4Jg09e/+nGeLhYawisKlJyxhx3nz/ae1c1yz7UwtPwjwI491FmJED0 M0d1H7qEv6scfyk64ZA2wM4qP5cv+fg== X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: f6c66409-42da-11ea-9eb3-25e2dfa9fa8d X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound4.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id f6c66409-42da-11ea-9eb3-25e2dfa9fa8d; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 00TL4dxr017344; Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:04:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <914e14637b54721aa32b26071c020c767f249186.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts From: Ian Lepore To: Mark Linimon Cc: freebsd-arch Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:04:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20200123042000.GA16137@lonesome.com> References: <6C674E9A-5946-4424-AEA1-689D2DA3C256.ref@yahoo.com> <6C674E9A-5946-4424-AEA1-689D2DA3C256@yahoo.com> <20200123042000.GA16137@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 487GFl3JZ1z4BT0 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:54.148.0.0/15, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:04:43 -0000 On Thu, 2020-01-23 at 04:20 +0000, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:05:19PM +0800, Ben Woods wrote: > > I suspect most small arm boards are still typically 32bit arm? > > No, most have moved to 64-bit. > > mcl > I'm not sure that's true at all. I'll bet more people are running freebsd on 32 bit arm right now, but the balance is shifting. Plenty of arm32 boards are still being sold, and some new boards are even still being developed. The 32 bit world is already largely oriented towards embedded systems (phones, automobile entertainment systems, point of sale kiosks, that sort of thing), and that isn't likely to go away any time soon. There are also low-cost low-power 64 bit boards intended primarily for embedded systems development and use. Even though they're 64 bit processors, they almost all have either 2 or 4GB of ram. It's not clear to me that the availability of such boards is going to drive 32 bit arm into extinction in the near future. -- Ian